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    Re: How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I'm sorry, America doesn't bow
    When in Rome, do as the Romans do.

    Volumes could be written on this aspect of Japanese etiquette alone. There are many levels that span from just barely cracking your head to full-blown face on the tatami prostration. Age, gender, position in the company and situation all impact the length and depth of the bow.

    The bow also has many meanings like, excuse me, thank you, Iím sorry, nice to meet you. Bows are also used to kick-off conversations and to acknowledge someoneís presence.

    "SoÖ. What are you trying to say?"

    Itís complex and this writing only scratches the surface butÖ

    Bow with a straight back and eyes cast downward. Men have have their hands at their sides. Women have their hands in front.If someone bows to you, you return the gesture. To keep things simple and to stay on the safe side, bow slightly longer and slightly deeper than the other.

    If you're ready for another serving of Japanese etiquette, click for the low-down on using chopsticks. Etiquette alone won't get you through so take a look at our learn Japanese section for Japanese greetings, and basic grammar. Japanese Etiquette: How to Bow, Etiquette for Eye Contact, Touching and More!

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    Re: How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    He should have taken a dump on his carpet just to remind him who's boss.
    No way - that carpet really ties the room together

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    Re: How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    we don't tip our flag
    It's dip, Dip.

    we don't show subservience to others
    The bow also has many meanings like, excuse me, thank you, Iím sorry, nice to meet you. Bows are also used to kick-off conversations and to acknowledge someoneís presence.

    we are equals, not second to.
    You're inferior to me because I'm rich.

    I guess to people that have no Pride in America, this is how it should be...
    I have Pride in America, but I'm ashamed of you, bro.

    Obama's a disgrace, and won't get a second term. Americans want a leader, not a spineless appeaser.
    Whatever you say, bro, whatever you say.

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    Re: How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow

    I still cannot understand all the spin from when obama obviously bowed to the king of saudi arabia?

    It use to be that gentlemen bowed to all ladies, I am sorry we have lost our traditions here, we could sure use those today.

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    Re: How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow

    Bowing is something very Japanese and it's impossible to think a Gaijin can master it without lots of training and understanding... whoever taught Obama to bow like that should be embarassed - and I'm assuming Obama is just doing what he was told to. That bow says, "I'm a nobody Westerner and this is how I bow and make Japanese people snicker behind my back". I would want to assume he got maybe 10 minutes of instruction on the plane from a Youtube video. It's bad.

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    Re: How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow

    It was awkward, it is hands to the side, quick bow, then the handshake
    Last edited by Jackboot; 11-14-09 at 07:37 PM.

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    Re: How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow

    It was more likely a lack of communications between the two, or maybe it was bad timing for the camera shot (they had both properly bowed to each other, and Akihito was quicker to rise and was already going to shake Obamas hand before Obama could get back up).

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    Re: How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow

    He gets a pass on this one. His actions are subject to at least three reasonable interpretations.

    He may in fact not be familiar with traditional Presidential Protocol.

    Or he may have decided to abandon protocol in favor of courtesy. This is after all the twentieth anniversary of Emperor Akithito (sp) accession.

    Or Obama may just be curious as to whether the Emperor had an erection at the time, and wanted to take a closer look. I lean towards the latter possibility.

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    Re: How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    He gets a pass on this one. His actions are subject to at least three reasonable interpretations.

    He may in fact not be familiar with traditional Presidential Protocol.

    Or he may have decided to abandon protocol in favor of courtesy. This is after all the twentieth anniversary of Emperor Akithito (sp) accession.

    Or Obama may just be curious as to whether the Emperor had an erection at the time, and wanted to take a closer look. I lean towards the latter possibility.


    Agreed - I'll give him a pass and I'm a harsh critic. 99 out of 100 people will look just as bad or worse in a situation trying to bow. Nothing he could really do - it's a no win scenario.

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    Re: How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip Comes Down View Post

    The bow also has many meanings like, excuse me, thank you, Iím sorry, nice to meet you. Bows are also used to kick-off conversations and to acknowledge someoneís presence.
    In PBO's case, it's more, "excuse me", and, "I'm sorry".
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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