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    Re: How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow

    America was founded upon a Constitutional Republic that sought to get away from the divine rule of monarchies. It is a fundamental component of the Age of Enlightenment and Classical Liberalism.

    America was also founded upon that fact that US citizens can become the President without having to take a DNA test to prove your royal hereditary. I wish more President respected this fact and held their head high when they meet with foreign dignitaries who are dictators or represent hereditary monarchs.

    When you bow to hereditary monarchs and dictators, you are forgetting some of the fundamentals principles that this country was founded upon and placing politics before principles.

    As for Japan, I can tolerate a bow (doesn't mean I like it) and I am not going to dig up the past with them since I view them as an ally nowadays. As for bowing to Abdullah, I think it is a disgrace, especially given his civil rights record, but I will take a bow over holding hands and kissing him.

    So, before Republicans go pointing figures at Obama bowing to foreign dignitaries, there are three fingers pointing back at you.

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    Re: How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow

    WW2 was over 60 years ago, we signed an armistice and have had peace for a long time. Japan is an ally. Why do we need to revisit the past over and over again? And what does it really have to do with the non-issue of Obama's bow? So, he got carried away and bowed low, so what? Maybe he was nervous. Maybe he was trying to compensate for his height out of consideration for his host?

    I can't believe the press or anyone thought this was a story.

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    Re: How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    WW2 was over 60 years ago, we signed an armistice and have had peace for a long time. Japan is an ally. Why do we need to revisit the past over and over again? And what does it really have to do with the non-issue of Obama's bow? So, he got carried away and bowed low, so what? Maybe he was nervous. Maybe he was trying to compensate for his height out of consideration for his host?

    I can't believe the press or anyone thought this was a story.
    the only people who believe this is a story are obama-haters.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    A symbol of respect?

    You do realize in Japan you bow to show respect, not complacency. Stop worrying about symbols, and worry about what the Office is actually doing.

    No more wool cloth for your eyes, sir.
    Too bad he doesn't have any respect for our military, our flag, or our country.



    BTW.... this was taken at Ft. Hood, the crotch salute returns for the 14 killed there.

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    Re: How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    You don't understand the Japanese culture.
    And you don't seem to understand the American culture.

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    Re: How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow

    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntary View Post
    America was founded upon a Constitutional Republic that sought to get away from the divine rule of monarchies. It is a fundamental component of the Age of Enlightenment and Classical Liberalism.

    America was also founded upon that fact that US citizens can become the President without having to take a DNA test to prove your royal hereditary. I wish more President respected this fact and held their head high when they meet with foreign dignitaries who are dictators or represent hereditary monarchs.

    When you bow to hereditary monarchs and dictators, you are forgetting some of the fundamentals principles that this country was founded upon and placing politics before principles.

    As for Japan, I can tolerate a bow (doesn't mean I like it) and I am not going to dig up the past with them since I view them as an ally nowadays. As for bowing to Abdullah, I think it is a disgrace, especially given his civil rights record, but I will take a bow over holding hands and kissing him.

    So, before Republicans go pointing figures at Obama bowing to foreign dignitaries, there are three fingers pointing back at you.
    If only Modern 'Liberals' would return to Classical Liberalism... :'(

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    Re: How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    I believe 'kow tow' is the proper term for this action.....

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    Re: How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    The only thing that's embarrassing about this non-issue is the retarded over-the-top response from people like you.

    It's such a non-issue, that you are bothering to reply to it and apologize for the appeaser in chief.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    If only Modern 'Liberals' would return to Classical Liberalism... :'(
    The same can be said about modern day 'Republicans'. Traditional conservatives of fiscal responsibility, humble foreign policy, respect for the 1st, 4th, and 10th Amendment, opposition to a large, federal government who do not want to legislate their socially conservative views on a federal level are a rare breed (at least in Washington).

    I wish modern day Liberals would read The Law by Bastiat as I wish modern day Republican would read The Conscience of a Conservative by Goldwater.

    I think both parties could use a good dose of history.

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    Re: How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're thinking like an American leftist. When Obama bowed so low and the emporer didn't, Obama was displaying weakness and submission and the emporer was showing Obama accepted the emporer's dominance.
    Why is it that a person with a reasonable, rational point of view on any issue has to be a leftist if they disagree with the other person's point of view? Admittedly, I injected politics into the matter, but it's not like this issue wasn't already turned into a political free-for-all long before I commented. All I stated was fact on both sides:

    1. Republicans are making way too big a deal over this; and,

    2. What's wrong with attempting to follow another country's customary greeting as a visiting dignitary? Wouldn't we except the same for foreign dignitaries who visit us?

    Way too much is being made of this...out of nothing. And you can bet the moment Pres. Obama doesn't render a customary greeting, i.e., bow, to a dignitary while visiting abroad he'll take heat for it. You can bet the opposition will jump all of his oversight only then he'll be labelled as not having showed the proper respect.

    Again, the man can't win for losing.

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