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    Re: Where do people without health insurance live?

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    The White House just released this response to the thread:

    This is where people without Government Health Insurance live.


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    Re: Where do people without health insurance live?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Ahh so you believe Jesus teaches you to force people to buy you things you don't use.

    Can you quote a passage for that?
    You didn't answer my question...

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    Re: Where do people without health insurance live?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Take out the word "force" and you will find the teachings....
    not that WWJD has any real part in this discussion.
    WWJD has everything to do with Jerry's uncharitable response to your post stating that you now have Parkinson's disease. He didn't acknowledge, sympathize or appear to give a ****.

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    Re: Where do people without health insurance live?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    You aren't making much sense, but I suppose you get off on that....
    Short answer is, I shouldn't have to pay anything for YOUR illnesses, or your insurance, but those who don't pay their own way take from the system without putting anything into it. If those people enjoy good health for their entire lives, good for them....but in reality, that is not typical.
    I'm not creating a bill at all, so why should you pay anything?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    If you want to wait til you need heart surgery to buy insurance, good luck with that. No company will sign you up given today's system.
    No that's a separate issue.

    If Obama wants to mandate that everyone buy catastrophic medical insurance at least, the medical equivalent of basic liability for cars, I'm all for that. But what you don't see is anyone forcing the public to buy Municipal auto Insurance, single payer auto insurance laws, or forcing you to buy more coverage than you actually need.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Insurance spreads the risk, sadly those of us who pay into the insurance pool are helping to support those who do not.
    I'm not incurring a bill for anyone to need to pay anything, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Funny, it is the DEMS who want everyone to have insurance and help pay their own way, and the GOP that is fighting it. Guess on this issue, the DEMS are the conservatives, and the GOP are the idiots who want their children and grandchildren to pay later for the bills we incur today...
    No the Dems aren't going to be on any of the policies they are enacting, neither will the GOP.

    One might tell both parties that since this legislation doesn't affect them in any way they need to butt-out.
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    Re: Where do people without health insurance live?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    You didn't answer my question...
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    WWJD has everything to do with Jerry's uncharitable response to your post stating that you now have Parkinson's disease. He didn't acknowledge, sympathize or appear to give a ****.
    I guess I just don't understand what you're asking, what you're talking about, or how any WWJD reference relates to anything on this thread in any way

    I don't understand the biblical reference in your question, to understand your question and then choose to not answer it.

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    Re: Where do people without health insurance live?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I don't understand why people still try to draw conclusions by looking at what states are most or least likely to do this or that and then looking at how those states vote. That's not how logic or statistics work.

    First off, insurance is a useless measure because the absolute poorest among us have it (via Medicaid) while the lower middle class is less likely to have it. Due to that, I fail to see how it correlates with income.

    Secondly, age distribution has a lot to do with this. The vast majority of the uninsured are between 18-34. The states that have the highest rates of the uninsured also happen to be the states that have the most people who fall into that bracket.

    United States by States; and Puerto Rico - GCT-P5. Age and Sex:**2000

    Finally, minorities (who overwhelmingly vote Democrat) are much more unlikely to be uninsured. According to Census figures, blacks and hispanics account for 22 million of the 46 million uninsured, while white people only account for 20.8 million. This is in spite of the fact that whites outnumber hispanics/blacks 196 million to 81 million.

    Given these facts, I'd be hesitant to try to draw any conclusions based on the distribution of the uninsured, especially as it pertains to party.
    This bring up an important point. Now these folks have been voting Democrat basically forever, but at least since the 50's or 60's. The Dems controlled the House for all but 10 of those years. In all that time they had the chance to give the "poor" or anyone else for that matter, health insurance or some equivalent solution. As of 2009, we're still dicking around with this problem, yet now some believe that the Dems will solve this problem finally? Pullleazzze, they are no more likely to solve this problem than they ever were.
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    Re: Where do people without health insurance live?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I guess I just don't understand what you're asking, what you're talking about, or how any WWJD reference relates to anything on this thread in any way

    I don't understand the biblical reference in your question, to understand your question and then choose to not answer it.
    I think it has to do with your sig, clinging to your guns and BIBLES.....
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    Re: Where do people without health insurance live?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    This bring up an important point. Now these folks have been voting Democrat basically forever, but at least since the 50's or 60's. The Dems controlled the House for all but 10 of those years. In all that time they had the chance to give the "poor" or anyone else for that matter, health insurance or some equivalent solution. As of 2009, we're still dicking around with this problem, yet now some believe that the Dems will solve this problem finally? Pullleazzze, they are no more likely to solve this problem than they ever were.
    Excellent point.

    The democrats pushing it are trying to turn it into a republican/democrat or liberal/conservative issue.
    When, obviously, it is not that.

    They can't and never have been able to get their democrats to be truly united in this area - why blame everyone else but theirselves?

    But this also points to the fact that just because one party holds the domination in government (president and Congress being under the control of one political party - a unified government) There still are vast differences within their own political-parties that prevent issues from passing, etc.

    Only 4 times has the government been unified. . . so it's rare and doesn't necessarily give it strength.
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    Re: Where do people without health insurance live?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Excellent point.

    The democrats pushing it are trying to turn it into a republican/democrat or liberal/conservative issue.
    When, obviously, it is not that.

    They can't and never have been able to get their democrats to be truly united in this area - why blame everyone else but theirselves?

    But this also points to the fact that just because one party holds the domination in government (president and Congress being under the control of one political party - a unified government) There still are vast differences within their own political-parties that prevent issues from passing, etc.

    Only 4 times has the government been unified. . . so it's rare and doesn't necessarily give it strength.
    In my opinion the real reason this can't be solved by Democrats, is simply that their policies and their fundamental ideology doesn't work.
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    Re: Where do people without health insurance live?

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I think it has to do with your sig, clinging to your guns and BIBLES.....
    But what did Jesus supposedly say that I'm allegedly am not living up to?

    I'm not making the connection

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