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    Re: Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Tell you what.

    You go and read the 1900+ bill that I've already skimmed, and you cite the specific sections that proves that the poor will be rewarded for breaking the law.
    I only need read your post.

    You said that those that are too poor to buy the insurance, as required by law, will not only not be punished for it, but will have that insurance provided to them by others.

    Break the law.
    Do not get punished.
    Get a reward.

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    Re: Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    That's actually the point of health insurance -- everybody hops into the pool, some people end up funding a portion of the care of the people in the pool and in return everybody knows they'll be taken care of if the worst happens to them.

    In other words, the point of health insurance, or really any insurance, is to distribute risk in a cost-effect manner.
    Too bad there are going to be too many people gameing the system, much like I'm going to and it won't be able to stay afloat, because of the lack of funds.

    This isn't going to make things better. It's going to make things worse, at best. This bill only re-invents the wheel. The only difference, is that there will be more working folks taking more money out of their pockets to support the welfare class. At the end of the day, it's all about creating more dependency on the government. More government enslavement, means more votes for the Democrats.
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    Re: Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Too bad there are going to be too many people gameing the system, much like I'm going to and it won't be able to stay afloat, because of the lack of funds.
    Here's what I think...

    Fining a class of people that do not buy health insurance, unless there is a trial and a conviction to that end, violates the constitution as a bill of attainder.

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    Re: Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Interesting that when -I- post this, I get attacked as a mean-spritited, evil heatless conservative, living in a fantasy world.
    Eh, you and I don't agree on much, but this is one thing that we are pretty much 100% in sync with. I'm not sure why you would get that response, though, admittedly, when I make this proposal, it often gets ignored.
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    Re: Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Eh, you and I don't agree on much, but this is one thing that we are pretty much 100% in sync with. I'm not sure why you would get that response, though, admittedly, when I make this proposal, it often gets ignored.
    Watch... I'll post it as a poll, and we'll see what the reaction is.

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    Re: Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance?

    the poor won't be breaking any laws, will they?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    the poor won't be breaking any laws, will they?
    If they are required by law to buy health insurance and do not -- then yes.

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    Re: Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Privately purchasing health insurance, durectly or thru an employer is a --voluntary-- association.

    This makes all the difference in the world.
    You're absolutely right, it does make all the difference right now, and the difference is that the system we have right now doesn't work, which is why we're going to try something different.

    I'm not in love with plan as proposed, but something needs to give, and since the Republicans started putting forward alternatives only when they knew they were going to get run over in the house, I've ignored them entirely.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I only need read your post.

    You said that those that are too poor to buy the insurance, as required by law, will not only not be punished for it, but will have that insurance provided to them by others.
    That's actually not what I said at all, and I've said several times that that's not what I'm saying, so apparently you didn't read what I've been saying.

    That said (), it would do everyone who is so pissed off by this bill to at least skim it.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Too bad there are going to be too many people gameing the system, much like I'm going to and it won't be able to stay afloat, because of the lack of funds.
    So in other words, you're convinced it'll break, so . . . you're going to help it break. Brilliant!

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This isn't going to make things better. It's going to make things worse, at best. This bill only re-invents the wheel. The only difference, is that there will be more working folks taking more money out of their pockets to support the welfare class. At the end of the day, it's all about creating more dependency on the government. More government enslavement, means more votes for the Democrats.
    Well, this is the first substantive effort to reform the health care system in a long, long time. I'm not fond of it, but at least it is an effort.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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