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    Re: Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    If you're not paying tax, you're not paying this fine...
    So... the poor will not be punished for breaking the law?

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    Re: Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    So... the poor will not be punished for breaking the law?
    No, the law (assuming this bill becomes law, of course) is that those who don't have health insurance will be billed 2.5% against their gross adjusted income to pay for the public option, which means that the poor won't be charged because they already make too little to pay income tax.
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    Re: Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    No, the law (assuming this bill becomes law, of course) is that those who don't have health insurance will be billed 2.5% against their gross adjusted income to pay for the public option, which means that the poor won't be charged because they already make too little to pay income tax.
    Right. The poor will not be punished for breaking the law.

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    Re: Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance?

    The poor will not be charged for not having the health insurance they can't afford, and will be supplied with health insurance.

    Anything said beyond that on that particular subject is symantic bickering.
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    Re: Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    The poor will not be charged for not having the health insurance they can't afford, and will be supplied with health insurance.

    Anything said beyond that on that particular subject is symantic bickering.

    Paid for, by the rest of us, because that's really what this is all about.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    The poor will not be charged for not having the health insurance they can't afford, and will be supplied with health insurance.
    Right. The poor will not be punished for breaking the law.

    In fact, the poor will be rewarded, as not only will they not be punished for breaking the law, they will have the health insurance the law required them to buy supplied to them for free.

    That is, they break the law, and I pay to provide their health care.

    Something is very, very wrong when the government forces others to reward you for breaking the law.
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    Re: Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance?

    I'm just going to pay the fine/tax/duty/penalty, which is going to half the price of an insurance policy and go to the doc anytime I please.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Right. The poor will not be punished for breaking the law.

    In fact, the poor will be rewarded, as not only will they not be punished for breaking the law, they will have the health insurance the law required them to buy supplied to them for free.

    That is, they break the law, and I pay to provide their health care.

    Something is very, very wrong when the government forces others to reward you for breaking the law.
    Tell you what.

    You go and read the 1900+ bill that I've already skimmed, and you cite the specific sections that proves that the poor will be rewarded for breaking the law.

    Otherwise, admit that you are arguing semantics, and that the whole point of the bill is to provide health insurance to those who can't afford it.
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    Re: Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Paid for, by the rest of us, because that's really what this is all about.
    That's actually the point of health insurance -- everybody hops into the pool, some people end up funding a portion of the care of the people in the pool and in return everybody knows they'll be taken care of if the worst happens to them.

    In other words, the point of health insurance, or really any insurance, is to distribute risk in a cost-effect manner.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Interview with the President: Jail Time for Those without Health Care Insurance?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    That's actually the point of health insurance -- everybody hops into the pool, some people end up funding a portion of the care of the people in the pool and in return everybody knows they'll be taken care of if the worst happens to them.

    In other words, the point of health insurance, or really any insurance, is to distribute risk in a cost-effect manner.
    Privately purchasing health insurance, durectly or thru an employer is a --voluntary-- association.

    This makes all the difference in the world.

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