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    Re: An Officer & a Gentleman

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    of course not.

    but i suspect we would have far less undesirable interaction with the middle east if we didn't NEED them.
    Well that's all good and well if they stayed in the middle east...

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    Re: An Officer & a Gentleman

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    true...that and our propensity to invade countries on a bush whim.
    See you were doing so well until you started talking about bush.

    Most people don't like when a liberal lady talks about bush. Her bush or America's.

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    Re: An Officer & a Gentleman

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I think that the internet, naked women and women's rights have a lot more to do with why the west is hated in the ME than our actions in AFG or Iraq. We are a cultural threat.
    Of course you are correct, they do not want to see two men holding hands, walking down the street. They do not want to see women in power, Nancy Pelosi must frighten them to death, a mere women deciding the next huge legislation. All of this freedom is what bothers them, they want control, they want to decide what happens next, not some serf......

    Now, are we really that different?

    I would argue that we are going back in time, not forward, and this
    "progressive" movement, is anything but. Just as compassionate conservatism wanted to control our lives, all of these people crave the same thing, POWER!
    Last edited by Jackboot; 11-11-09 at 05:47 PM.

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    Re: An Officer & a Gentleman

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    wait, what? you really believe that women's right are more threatening to a me muslim than death?

    while i believe they ARE threatened by our culture, i don't think that's anything that couldn't be overcome. hell, WE were threatened by women's rights not so long ago.....and some americans still are.
    Yes, I do. It threatens the very cultural fabric. It is why fathers kill their daughters for becoming too westernized. They are willing to die for their honor, which is culturally defined.

    It has also been going on for decades, whereas these wars are briefer affairs.

    I want to say that the rise in traditional values/extremism is in response to our inadvertant cultural attack on this region.

    We do see the same traditional response here in America with some people not wanting to recognize women's rights, here. Of course, there has been a negative consequence to women's rights: divorce and single parent homes. Women can now earn their own way and so are not as economically tied to the husband for survival.

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    Re: An Officer & a Gentleman

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    See you were doing so well until you started talking about bush.

    Most people don't like when a liberal lady talks about bush. Her bush or America's.
    uh-huh. you're right......perhaps america's bush should be banished.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: An Officer & a Gentleman

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Yes, I do. It threatens the very cultural fabric. It is why fathers kill their daughters for becoming too westernized. They are willing to die for their honor, which is culturally defined.

    It has also been going on for decades, whereas these wars are briefer affairs.

    I want to say that the rise in traditional values/extremism is in response to our inadvertant cultural attack on this region.

    We do see the same traditional response here in America with some people not wanting to recognize women's rights, here. Of course, there has been a negative consequence to women's rights: divorce and single parent homes. Women can now earn their own way and so are not as economically tied to the husband for survival.
    well, thank goodness women no longer are dependent upon men for their survival. that's the reason for divorce, women don't have to put up with men who treat them poorly. i don't view that kind of divorce as a negative.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: An Officer & a Gentleman

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    well, thank goodness women no longer are dependent upon men for their survival. that's the reason for divorce, women don't have to put up with men who treat them poorly. i don't view that kind of divorce as a negative.
    I don't entirely disagree with you but there has been a social cost. I know many divorced couples and only a couple have been due to abuse. People don't take vows seriously anymore. Marriages should be on contract, for 5 year intervals.

    More depressing is all the single parent homes. A very good friend of mine married her college sweetheart 15 years ago and they are a very religious family. They had three daughters, now aged 12, 9, 7. The husband went to Swanee (sp?), a religious school, for his freaking doctor of divinity. While there he decided he was going to sleep with his best friends wife and after, that they were going to get married. So he divorced his wife and she is now raising the kids on her own.

    Divorce is a disease and kids are growing up stunted by the single parent homes. Even in a 2 parent home, both parents work and send the kids to day-care.

    And by extension on what you said, men don't have to put up with women's ****.

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    Re: An Officer & a Gentleman

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    uh-huh. you're right......perhaps america's bush should be banished.
    If you keep either one trimmed and under control it's not a problem...

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    Re: An Officer & a Gentleman

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    What's the grammar difference?

    So they'll count you as unacceptable if you spell "color" instead of "colour"?

    Wow. Talk about totalitarian, sheesh. My teachers were just happy I knew how to tie my shoes.
    "color" is unacceptable here. Grammer - for example "If it ain't broke don't fix it". Thats unacceptable.

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    Re: An Officer & a Gentleman

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    "color" is unacceptable here. Grammer - for example "If it ain't broke don't fix it". Thats unacceptable.
    How about spelling? It's grammar, you know.

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