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Prejean Sex Tape Triggers Settlement

Re: Carrie Prejean - the change of heart

What's so anti family about a personal sex tape that was not for public viewing? What the hell? You people really need to take a long hard look at how hysterical you are being.

It isn't about a personal sex tape. It's about her stance on gay marriage. And because of that, some low-life invaded her personal life and now you guys are delighting in dragging the girl through the mud like a bunch of jackals. It's disgusting really and more indicative of a hateful and uncivil discourse on your parts than it is of a woman being less than wholesome.

If your wife or girlfriend made a private sex tape for you, would find her to be the paragon of loose morals? Probably not. So why is it this way for this girl?

It's disgusting how you guys are acting.


What's so exemplary to emulate? Gotta say, the usual outraged defenses of the hypocritical fallen heroes of the Christian Right just adds to the farce.

She's a hypocrite :lol:
So, frankly, is the whole Religious Right movement! They are the anti-thesis of Christian values. Turn the other cheek. Judge not lest ye be judged. Howsoever you treat the least amongst you, so you do unto me.

They should all stfu.
 
Re: Carrie Prejean - the change of heart

What's so exemplary to emulate? Gotta say, the usual outraged defenses of the hypocritical fallen heroes of the Christian Right just adds to the farce.

She's a hypocrite :lol:
So, frankly, is the whole Religious Right movement! They are the anti-thesis of Christian values. Turn the other cheek. Judge not lest ye be judged. Howsoever you treat the least amongst you, so you do unto me.

They should all stfu.

Okay, whatever. I see all the cackling hand-wringing over this girl's embarassment is just going to build momentum into a mouthfoaming rant. Save yourself the time, the breath, and the spittle from flying out in front of you. You guys have shown just how low you can sink. You've done quite enough.
 
Re: Carrie Prejean - the change of heart

They are promoting values you should live by ....


Anyone who preaches one thing and does another is asking for it.
When did she preach about masturbation? Link?

The problem lie entirely in engaging in behavior contradictory to your message.

Carrie Prejean ain't no example for anyone to follow. Save a rogue. :2wave:

What message exactly are you referring to? Link?
 
Re: Carrie Prejean - the change of heart

Okay, whatever. I see all the cackling hand-wringing over this girl's embarassment is just going to build momentum into a mouthfoaming rant. Save yourself the time, the breath, and the spittle from flying out in front of you. You guys have shown just how low you can sink. You've done quite enough.


Whatever indeed! :rofl

She's famous for being a 'victim'. She was deprived of a crown she never won. She signed a contract saying there were no nude photos of her out there. First came the lingerie photos, then came the boat photos, now comes a live action porn flick, starring Carrie en flagrante. Solo. :lol:

She's held up as an example to emulate. For what? She's a fake liar of loose morals with no accomplishments. Some example.

SHE'S shown just as low as you can go. Maybe. There will probably be some new scandal in a few months.
 
Re: Carrie Prejean - the change of heart

When did she preach about masturbation? Link?



What message exactly are you referring to? Link?

Exactly what I was thinking. Hell, I don't even remember abstinence being her big speech. And, as far as what people took exception to, her response at the pageant was respectful and candid. She didn't start preaching; she answered a pointed question with her own truth. Which, by the way, she said applied to her and those who raised her. She followed it with an affirmation of the freedom for others to do as they choose.

I don't know what more a person who enjoys the liberties this nation values would want out of her answer.

And I am not sure what hypocrisy everyone in this thread keeps referring to. So she made a sex tape for private viewing. So she had sex. Big ****ing deal. Her only crime is expecting that some measure of privacy would be afforded to her somewhat adventurous sex life. But we all know that no low is too low for the left to sink when they think it will buy them another 15 minutes of poorly justified, shrill bitching and caterwauling about how bad anyone who disagrees with their agenda is.

It's disgusting.
 
Re: Carrie Prejean - the change of heart

Okay, whatever. I see all the cackling hand-wringing over this girl's embarassment is just going to build momentum into a mouthfoaming rant. Save yourself the time, the breath, and the spittle from flying out in front of you. You guys have shown just how low you can sink. You've done quite enough.

When did she preach about masturbation? Link?



What message exactly are you referring to? Link?



Who said she said anything about masturbation? :rofl Face it, the 'poor girl' ain't no shining example of values to emulate.

As to what message, the link is in the OP - her speech to the Values Voters Summit peeps not two months ago. She was met like a rock star by that crowd, btw. For what? What, exactly, is so compelling about her? What, exactly, is there about her that we should follow as an example?
 
Re: Carrie Prejean - the change of heart

Whatever indeed! :rofl

She's famous for being a 'victim'. She was deprived of a crown she never won. She signed a contract saying there were no nude photos of her out there. First came the lingerie photos, then came the boat photos, now comes a live action porn flick, starring Carrie en flagrante. Solo. :lol:

She's held up as an example to emulate. For what? She's a fake liar of loose morals with no accomplishments. Some example.

SHE'S shown just as low as you can go. Maybe. There will probably be some new scandal in a few months.

Anything more shrill to spew at me before you clean the foam off your screen and call it a night?
 
It's true that what she's most famous for is stating that she believes marriage should consist of a union between a man and a woman; there's nothing necessarily inconsistent about her honestly believing that, and also acting in porn.
Adult entertainers can have opinions too; some of their opinions might be ignorant, some well-informed, some uber-liberal, some surprisingly stodgy and conservative. They're individuals, just like you and I.

On the other hand... I don't know much about her, really, but didn't she go on some sort of Christian crusade after losing the pageant and voluntarily become some sort of poster-child for the Radical Right?
That's where I see some hypocrisy.
Not with her having a conservative opinion about gay marriage while at the same time having performed in an adult video or posed for nude or semi-nude photos. That's all well and good. There's no law that says porn actors and adult entertainers are only allowed to hold and express liberal views on everything under the sun.
But there is some sort of disconnect between her being some churchy priss and her having a past that includes masturbating in adult videos.
When the lingerie photos came out, she claimed to have been a naive teenager at the time, and having been tricked or coerced by some unethical photographer.
I wonder what her excuse will be this time?
 
On the other hand... I don't know much about her, really, but didn't she go on some sort of Christian crusade after losing the pageant and voluntarily become some sort of poster-child for the Radical Right?
That's where I see some hypocrisy.
Not with her having a conservative opinion about gay marriage while at the same time having performed in an adult video or posed for nude or semi-nude photos. That's all well and good. There's no law that says porn actors and adult entertainers are only allowed to hold and express liberal views on everything under the sun.


:yes: Mmmm hmmmm ... she went to the Values Voters Summit in September and told us how she was chosen by God, and conservatives must lead by example.


Oh, yea, and she declared the porn vid to be 'disgusting!', and denied it was she on the tape .... until the angle shot changed and continuing the farce was ludicrous.

Plus, she did, you know, sign a contract with the pageant, saying no nude photos or tape of her existed ;).


She's a construct. Total fake. She ain't anything to emulate.
 
:yes: Mmmm hmmmm ... she went to the Values Voters Summit in September and told us how she was chosen by God, and conservatives must lead by example.


Oh, yea, and she declared the porn vid to be 'disgusting!', and denied it was she on the tape .... until the angle shot changed and continuing the farce was ludicrous.

Plus, she did, you know, sign a contract with the pageant, saying no nude photos or tape of her existed ;).


She's a construct. Total fake. She ain't anything to emulate.

On the other hand, she's not very old; maybe she truly wanted to turn her life around. I'm not sure why else she'd choose the pageant circuit; it costs money. She could've made more continuing in adult films.
It's sad that some silly stuff like this from her past would prevent her from it.
She couldn't have been much more than a kid at the time she was involved in all this lechery; besides, she might not have wanted to lie about her past. She might've just wanted a different kind of life. The lying was forced upon her. She couldn't have this new life- couldn't even have a shot at it- if she had been honest and admitted what her old life had consisted of.
Every stripper that retires, makes good, and goes straight faces this same dilemma.
The lying is a given. One can't be truthful about one's past and expect society to be understanding.
They would not have allowed her to compete in that pageant if she'd told the truth. Just like they wouldn't have allowed her to do a lot of things.

But, one way of looking at it is, that's life. Every choice you make as you go along closes some doors. When you're young, your life is a vast door-lined corridor stretching out endlessly before you. As you go along in life making choices, you find that one by one, those doors begin to close and lock.
Actions have consequences.
She tried to circumvent those consequences by lying about her past.

But on the other other hand- how many hands is that, now? :lol:- maybe she shouldn't have had to lie.
Nothing she did is against the law, after all.
She's committed no crime, that we know of.
Why was she forced to answer that question about posing nude, when only one answer was acceptable, when only one answer would allow her to go forward and accomplish her goals?
Why did they make her lie?
Why do they even ask that question?
The girls that compete in the pageants are increasingly exposed, in this age of technology, as normal young girls who sometimes make stupid mistakes.
Why not just let them be that, and accept that that's what they are?
Why do we as a society insist on holding them to some ridiculous moral standards, in exchange for allowing them the privilege of prancing around in bikinis in front of us?
 
On the other hand, she's not very old; maybe she truly wanted to turn her life around. I'm not sure why else she'd choose the pageant circuit; it costs money. She could've made more continuing in adult films.
It's sad that some silly stuff like this from her past would prevent her from it.
She couldn't have been much more than a kid at the time she was involved in all this lechery; besides, she might not have wanted to lie about her past. She might've just wanted a different kind of life. The lying was forced upon her. She couldn't have this new life- couldn't even have a shot at it- if she had been honest and admitted what her old life had consisted of.
Every stripper that retires, makes good, and goes straight faces this same dilemma.
The lying is a given. One can't be truthful about one's past and expect society to be understanding.
They would not have allowed her to compete in that pageant if she'd told the truth. Just like they wouldn't have allowed her to do a lot of things.

But, one way of looking at it is, that's life. Every choice you make as you go along closes some doors. When you're young, your life is a vast door-lined corridor stretching out endlessly before you. As you go along in life making choices, you find that one by one, those doors begin to close and lock.
Actions have consequences.
She tried to circumvent those consequences by lying about her past.

But on the other other hand- how many hands is that, now? :lol:- maybe she shouldn't have had to lie.
Nothing she did is against the law, after all.
She's committed no crime, that we know of.
Why was she forced to answer that question about posing nude, when only one answer was acceptable, when only one answer would allow her to go forward and accomplish her goals?
Why did they make her lie?
Why do they even ask that question?
The girls that compete in the pageants are increasingly exposed, in this age of technology, as normal young girls who sometimes make stupid mistakes.
Why not just let them be that, and accept that that's what they are?
Why do we as a society insist on holding them to some ridiculous moral standards, in exchange for allowing them the privilege of prancing around in bikinis in front of us?


heh ... I think it's alot of hands ;)

I think you're right, if she told the truth to the pageant, she would not have been able to compete. Do I feel bad for her about that, absolutely not. She was signing a contract. Too bad if prior choices were a problem.

btw, I don't think she was a stripper, or working in the trade, I think it was an ex-boyfriend that sold the tape. I think ... not certain.

Yep, it's sleezy that her ex sold her out. But it was also sleezy for her to lie. As for it getting in her way now (not talking about the pageant now, now I'm talking about her spokesperson 'career') .... too bad about that too. You can't be held up as a paragon of virtue by way of lying. Hell, if she told the truth she might have had a better story to 'sell'. "I have SINNED, but now I have learnt the error of my ways!" blah blah blah :cool:
 
Yep, it's sleezy that her ex sold her out. But it was also sleezy for her to lie.

Well, look... I don't know about you, but when rules make sense, I follow them, and when I don't agree with rules, I break them. Deliberately, sometimes.

If someone walked up to me holding a piece of blue paper and said, "If you say this paper is blue, I'll punch you in the face. But if you say it's pink, I'll give you fifteen hundred dollars. You can also decline to say anything at all, and you'll get neither a punch in the face nor fifteen hundred dollars. Now, I want you to be completely honest here: what color do you think this paper is?", I'd lie with absolutely no remorse whatsoever.

Prejean wanted to enter a beauty competition.
They wouldn't let her enter it unless she lied and said that some things that had happened in the past hadn't happened.
So she lied.
Maybe if they'd given her an explanation for this rule which made sense to her, she wouldn't have lied. Maybe she would've just accepted that she was unworthy of competing in their contest, too immoral to dress up in a bikini and traipse around on national television.
Without an explanation, though, the rule doesn't make much sense.
So i doubt she felt very guilty about lying. She probably never gave it a second thought.
 
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Well, look... I don't know about you, but when rules make sense, I follow them, and when I don't agree with rules, I break them. Deliberately, sometimes.

If someone walked up to me holding a piece of blue paper and said, "If you say this paper is blue, I'll punch you in the face. But if you say it's pink, I'll give you fifteen hundred dollars. You can also decline to say anything at all, and you'll get neither a punch in the face nor fifteen hundred dollars. Now, I want you to be completely honest here: what color do you think this paper is?", I'd lie with absolutely no remorse whatsoever.

Prejean wanted to enter a beauty competition.
They wouldn't let her enter it unless she lied and said that some things that had happened in the past hadn't happened.
So she lied.
Maybe if they'd given her an explanation for this rule which made sense to her, she wouldn't have lied. Maybe she would've just accepted that she was unworthy of competing in their contest, too immoral to dress up in a bikini and traipse around on national television.
Without an explanation, though, the rule doesn't make much sense.
So i doubt she felt very guilty about lying. She probably never gave it a second thought.


The hypocrisy and scorn come from what comes next. She steps up to hold herself up as a spokesman for the religious right, and tells us to lead by example.

:doh

She ain't the first beauty queen to be caught in a lie about nude photos. Didn't Vanessa Williams launch a successful career after such an event? I do think she's the first one who held herself up as a victim, telling us she was chosen by God for a reason, and that conservatives must lead by example.
 
Moderator's Warning:
Folks some of you need to lighten up and cease the attacks.
 
Re: Carrie Prejean - the change of heart

In short, she should not be trying to shove things down the throats of others, while she is making movies that show things being shoved down HER throat. LOL.

So was she known as some kind of conservative activist before she was asked a loaded question on national television about her personal views?

I never heard of her and would have never given her a second thought without the constant bitching about her.
 
So i doubt she felt very guilty about lying. .

I dig the way you can tell how people feel with a few edited images and sound bytes. Psychic powa!!:roll:

Are you bald?

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Re: Carrie Prejean - the change of heart

Who cares? Do as I say and not as I do is what is sickening. Her entire reason for being famous is b/c she was held up by the Christian Right as a paragon to be emulated, who was wronged! Wronged! It's a joke. She's a 22 yo hustler, out for a quick buck.

Guilt by association.

From as far as I could remember with it, she answers question, people talk about answer, she gets upset and believes that was why she did not win (and, really, I don't quite blame her for assuming it...sorry, I don't), religious right props her up, she has one photoshoot that is kind of racy, now sex private sex tape.

Again, just because one group props her up, doesn't mean people should place far more attributes to her than she really spoke of. She was asked (by a whiny little douchebag blogger, to boot) about gay marriage, and she has to answer. She can either give the biggest bs answer to placate a blogger, the other judges, and the audience, or she can be honest, while saying it politely. She gave her answer (which I completely and utterly disagreed with, gay marriage makes every bit of sense to me), and outrage ensued.

And yes, Bill Clinton is a shining example of what partisan hackery can do to someone's sex life and political life (again, I thought the whole thing was crap), but that does not excuse the obvious drooling session liberals have whenever anyone of conservative stripes does something sexual and it gets leaked. Yes, some conservatives who campaign on family values of every sense of the word, and then get caught violating many of those principles receives laughter or scorn for some good reason. However, liberals take extra extra pleasure from it. Don't deny it.
 
:rofl It wasn't even two short months ago that this darling of social conservatives challenged her audience to lead by example :cool:. Wonder what the values voter summit folks think of her now?

Its ok, Carrie will make a comeback, she can take care of herself, quite handily I have heard! :mrgreen:
 
Re: Carrie Prejean - the change of heart

What's so anti family about a personal sex tape that was not for public viewing? What the hell? You people really need to take a long hard look at how hysterical you are being.

It isn't about a personal sex tape. It's about her stance on gay marriage. And because of that, some low-life invaded her personal life and now you guys are delighting in dragging the girl through the mud like a bunch of jackals. It's disgusting really and more indicative of a hateful and uncivil discourse on your parts than it is of a woman being less than wholesome.

If your wife or girlfriend made a private sex tape for you, would find her to be the paragon of loose morals? Probably not. So why is it this way for this girl?

It's disgusting how you guys are acting.

C'mon Jall....no one is saying that she is the "paragon of loose morals".....but when you pretend to be Miss ultra-pure....you hold yourself out as such.....you cry the martyr because you lost a pagent and can't accept the fact. You run to the family values circuit for support and propel yourself into their limelight....

You deserve to be exposed for the hypocrite that you are.
Is she the most immoral sluty person around? Not even close.
Is she a total hypocrite? Without a doubt.
 
It's true that what she's most famous for is stating that she believes marriage should consist of a union between a man and a woman; there's nothing necessarily inconsistent about her honestly believing that, and also acting in porn.
Adult entertainers can have opinions too; some of their opinions might be ignorant, some well-informed, some uber-liberal, some surprisingly stodgy and conservative. They're individuals, just like you and I.

On the other hand... I don't know much about her, really, but didn't she go on some sort of Christian crusade after losing the pageant and voluntarily become some sort of poster-child for the Radical Right?
That's where I see some hypocrisy.
Not with her having a conservative opinion about gay marriage while at the same time having performed in an adult video or posed for nude or semi-nude photos. That's all well and good. There's no law that says porn actors and adult entertainers are only allowed to hold and express liberal views on everything under the sun.
But there is some sort of disconnect between her being some churchy priss and her having a past that includes masturbating in adult videos.
When the lingerie photos came out, she claimed to have been a naive teenager at the time, and having been tricked or coerced by some unethical photographer.
I wonder what her excuse will be this time?

Exactly.

She is absolutely free to have an opinion. It was her bad acting/little miss martyr...little miss purity routine....I'm the victim routine and holding herself out as the model of purity that is what is deserving of outing her hypocracy.
 
Her answer on the pagent displayed what a horrible public speaker she is....to say nothing about the content.
Absolutely, she should have a right to speak her mind.
But what she did, was take to the stage and start crying little miss martyr and making excuses for why she lost. She couldn't simply accept the fact that she lost....it had to be someones fault because after all....she was predestined in her own mind to win.

She then saw the opportunity to exploit herself and started holding herself up as Miss family values. She has worked with these groups and promoted herself as their spokesperson.

All the while.....engaging is less than family values type behavior herself.

I believe she was probably asked by the media to give her side.

Even the pageant thought she would win.

She can alway change when it comes to "family values" or anything else.

I saw nothing wrong with her public speaking, and she's been on TV speaking here and there.

You libs sure are tight butts when it's not a liberal.:eek:
 
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