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    Declarations of State Sovereignty

    Some States have passed legislation that will trigger their Sovereignty should the United States Federal Government overstep its constitutional bounds (however, Texas has had similar legislation in its State Constitution since it's acceptance into the Union.)

    Copies of the Bills, States that have implemented this, and comments regarding are all welcome.


    I will start with my State's bill:
    New Hampshire HCR 0006

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    Re: Declarations of State Sovereignty

    None of that matters unless the states are willing to uphold what they are writing. I'm thinking they are not. Words are pretty, but actions speak louder.

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    Re: Declarations of State Sovereignty

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    None of that matters unless the states are willing to uphold what they are writing. I'm thinking they are not. Words are pretty, but actions speak louder.


    So far it looks like about 13-15 states have passed this legislation. And yeah, actions do speak louder than words but here's hoping NH takes its "Live Free or Die" motto to heart.

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    Re: Declarations of State Sovereignty

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Some States have passed legislation that will trigger their Sovereignty should the United States Federal Government overstep its constitutional bounds...
    Crazy question, but what would constitute the government overstepping its bounds? I haven't read any given state's bill on sovereignty (and I suppose I should if I really wanted to know that badly), but the minds of those who may comment on this issue, what would constitute such a breech of sovereign state's rights?

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    Re: Declarations of State Sovereignty

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Crazy question, but what would constitute the government overstepping its bounds? I haven't read any given state's bill on sovereignty (and I suppose I should if I really wanted to know that badly), but the minds of those who may comment on this issue, what would constitute such a breech of sovereign state's rights?
    And I quote:


    That any Act by the Congress of the United States, Executive Order of the President of the United States of America or Judicial Order by the Judicatories of the United States of America which assumes a power not delegated to the government of United States of America by the Constitution for the United States of America and which serves to diminish the liberty of the any of the several States or their citizens shall constitute a nullification of the Constitution for the United States of America by the government of the United States of America. Acts which would cause such a nullification include, but are not limited to:

    I. Establishing martial law or a state of emergency within one of the States comprising the United States of America without the consent of the legislature of that State.

    II. Requiring involuntary servitude, or governmental service other than a draft during a declared war, or pursuant to, or as an alternative to, incarceration after due process of law.

    III. Requiring involuntary servitude or governmental service of persons under the age of 18 other than pursuant to, or as an alternative to, incarceration after due process of law.

    IV. Surrendering any power delegated or not delegated to any corporation or foreign government.

    V. Any act regarding religion; further limitations on freedom of political speech; or further limitations on freedom of the press.

    VI. Further infringements on the right to keep and bear arms including prohibitions of type or quantity of arms or ammunition; and

    That should any such act of Congress become law or Executive Order or Judicial Order be put into force, all powers previously delegated to the United States of America by the Constitution for the United States shall revert to the several States individually. Any future government of the United States of America shall require ratification of three quarters of the States seeking to form a government of the United States of America and shall not be binding upon any State not seeking to form such a government; and

    That copies of this resolution be transmitted by the house clerk to the President of the United States, each member of the United States Congress, and the presiding officers of each State’s legislature.

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    Re: Declarations of State Sovereignty

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    None of that matters unless the states are willing to uphold what they are writing. I'm thinking they are not. Words are pretty, but actions speak louder.
    True, but words must come first.
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    Re: Declarations of State Sovereignty

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    None of that matters unless the states are willing to uphold what they are writing. I'm thinking they are not. Words are pretty, but actions speak louder.
    Exactly. I seriously doubt any politician at the state level has the cahones to do anything other than express a symbolic gesture. Politicians these days just aren't cut from the same cloth as they were 250 years ago.

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    Re: Declarations of State Sovereignty

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Exactly. I seriously doubt any politician at the state level has the cahones to do anything other than express a symbolic gesture. Politicians these days just aren't cut from the same cloth as they were 250 years ago.
    Texas will do it. They've been itching for a reason to secede lol.

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    Re: Declarations of State Sovereignty

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Texas will do it. They've been itching for a reason to secede lol.
    Nah, I don't think so. The public support according to polls was in the low 30's last I am aware of. Without heavy public support, I doubt it could be done.

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    Re: Declarations of State Sovereignty

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Nah, I don't think so. The public support according to polls was in the low 30's last I am aware of. Without heavy public support, I doubt it could be done.
    Texans are already pissed about the TTC...They're crazy down there...they'll do it.

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