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    Re: Suicide Toll Fuels Worry That Army Is Strained

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Ugh reading these kind of things is so grim and sad. You got to wonder what goes on in the heads of our soldiers when they come home and they see that suicide is the only option.

    Suicide Toll Fuels Worry That Army Is Strained - WSJ.com
    Because, 9 times out of 10, the paper hanging therapist hs never served in the combat and has no ****ing clue what's going on in that soldier's head.

    The first political forum I participated one, had a member that claimed to a be a phsycho-therapist. She said that everyone of her vet patients, ended up committing suicide. Of course, since she's a full blown Libbo, it was Bush's fault. I'll never forget when I asked if perhaps she thought that since she had never served in the militar, much less in combat, that it was her inability to treat these men that was the real problem. As you all can imagine, the other Libbos shouted me down as a hater and an ass hole, Bush-bot, war monger, liar, etc.
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    Re: Suicide Toll Fuels Worry That Army Is Strained

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    This is a horrible epidemic in the Army right now. Army leaders from the top all the way down are fighting hard to deal with this. It is very hard to stop and/or control. The bottom line is taking care of people; identifying who is high-risk and trying to get them help. This means leaders (Corporal to General) have to CARE about their Soldiers and get involved personally in their lives. It's not just young Soldiers that are at risk. It's NCOs and Officers, as well.

    I believe Fort Campbell, KY is having the worst time with this right now. Thier numbers are jaw-dropping. This is a real strain on the force right now.
    We went through suicide prevention training.
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    Re: Suicide Toll Fuels Worry That Army Is Strained

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    I just can't help but wondering, how one is to deal with this problem? Sometimes saying "war is hell" is reasonable enough, but in this situation that is the problem entirely; it's like trying to churn butter with the intention of not churning butter.
    "War" isn't hell, its the coming back to "peace" that is the hard transition and if you don't have the support there you will commit suicide.

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    Re: Suicide Toll Fuels Worry That Army Is Strained

    Quote Originally Posted by stalin_was_a_nice_being View Post
    "War" isn't hell, its the coming back to "peace" that is the hard transition and if you don't have the support there you will commit suicide.
    Exactly.

    The transition is hard - for members and everyone else. You train to fight, they don't train you to readjust to "normal."
    They've taken steps to try to help - like requiring a 2 week garrison to unwind, but that still doesn't help.

    My husband was gone for 18 months one time and couldn't handle the kids at all when he came home - just days before he left our youngest was born . . . so you can imagine that coming home to the kids being almost 2 years older was hard to handle, especially with hte youngest who had a very "mommy" attachment. The transition back to work was hard, getting use to the growing-up family was hard, and going to the store without being on edge was hard.
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    Re: Suicide Toll Fuels Worry That Army Is Strained

    I'm glad this topic has come up in such a respectable way.


    There are several things that need to be done and many have touched upon it well.


    However, if your a veteran or a concerned person, consider volunteering for any of the numerous re-integration programs, and get involved.
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    Re: Suicide Toll Fuels Worry That Army Is Strained

    Quote Originally Posted by stalin_was_a_nice_being View Post
    "War" isn't hell, its the coming back to "peace" that is the hard transition and if you don't have the support there you will commit suicide.



    War is indeed hell, returning from hell, you have a different perspective and those around you don't get it..... it's an isolating prison that can bring you down for a while.


    support is important. but suicide is not a guarantee either.
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    Re: Suicide Toll Fuels Worry That Army Is Strained

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I'm glad this topic has come up in such a respectable way.


    There are several things that need to be done and many have touched upon it well.


    However, if your a veteran or a concerned person, consider volunteering for any of the numerous re-integration programs, and get involved.
    Thank you - There's a lot of help my husband can offer to returning soldiers in the program he heads because he deployed, came back, went into his program and then later joined the program to help others.

    He's the only soldier to have done so and we need more people who have actually been there and done that to help out. His assigned soldiers are from all over the country and they really respect his views because of his past experience.

    For others in his position, though they're in it heart and soul, sometimes they just can't relate to their soldiers because of lack of experience with what they're going through.
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    Re: Suicide Toll Fuels Worry That Army Is Strained

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Ugh reading these kind of things is so grim and sad. You got to wonder what goes on in the heads of our soldiers when they come home and they see that suicide is the only option.
    One wonders how we managed to win WW2, where servicemen were deployed for the duration.

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