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    Re: Adult film director Max Hardcore sentenced to 4 years in prison on obscenity char

    During the film Lain starts to cry as she had no idea that she would be urinated on during the film. Filming is not stopped and she is coerced into finishing the film, she begins crying again and Little tells the crew the shoot has finished. The editing makes a feature of and ridicules her tears, also the fact that she says she is not stupid. An exit interview is filmed where she asks for a sticker for her boyfriend, again the editing makes her look ridiculous for this.
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    This seems to be a little bit beyond the First Amendment. What an asshole.
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    Sov can I point out you half heartedly lectured people on viewing feminists as a monolithic movement and then proceeded to describe all social conservatives as a monolithic movement?

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    Re: Adult film director Max Hardcore sentenced to 4 years in prison on obscenity char

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Are you talking about sexual fantasies or something else? Because my sexual fantasies have absolutely nothing to do with my "emotional life" and certainly don't motivate my behavior beyond achieving a climax.
    And you still insist that "achieving a climax" and "getting off" are not every bit as much emotional responses as they are physical? I know that I am disturbed, thank you, but perhaps it is time for you to admit that I'm not the only one.

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    Re: Adult film director Max Hardcore sentenced to 4 years in prison on obscenity char

    Whatabout people that have Freddy Kruger fanatasies? Should those films be cesured?

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    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Whatabout people that have Freddy Kruger fanatasies? Should those films be cesured?
    You're not supposed to masturbate to Freddy Kreuger. If someone makes a habit of it, they should probably be under psychiatric care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    You're not supposed to masturbate to Freddy Kreuger. If someone makes a habit of it, they should probably be under psychiatric care.
    As long as it doesn't harm anyone who cares? Why care?

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    Re: Adult film director Max Hardcore sentenced to 4 years in prison on obscenity char

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    And you still insist that "achieving a climax" and "getting off" are not every bit as much emotional responses as they are physical? I know that I am disturbed, thank you, but perhaps it is time for you to admit that I'm not the only one.
    What the hell does an orgasm have to do with emotion? I rub my clit, I orgasm. No emotion involved.

    And you didn't answer my questions.

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    Re: Adult film director Max Hardcore sentenced to 4 years in prison on obscenity char

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    As long as it doesn't harm anyone who cares? Why care?
    Obviously, since someone may harm society by jacking off to Freddy Kreuger, we MUST ban Freddy Kreuger so as to protect society!

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    Re: Adult film director Max Hardcore sentenced to 4 years in prison on obscenity char

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    But see that is the problem the Law/Rule is a clear violation of the 1st Adm. hence it should have been throw out and the Law over turned by The United State Supreme Court. While you can stated that the State has rights to enacted there Laws under the 10th Adm. they can't violated said 1st Adm by enacting said Laws.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    WRONG.

    What Max Hardcore did is protected under the 1st Amendment.
    The Supreme Court has said that some speech is not protected by the 1st amendment, and that includes obscenity, which seems to be the ruling in this case. For that reason, under current precedent this conviction would hold up, because nine people in whatever town on whatever date thought the work had no legitimate value.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Your opinion of his work (which I happen to agree with your opinion of it) is irrelevant. If you don't approve of his work, don't buy it. There is a thing called the first amendment, you might want to read it sometime.

    This case should be appealed and hopefully overturned.
    Your opinion is relevant, because obscenity is defined by community standards. Basically the test for obscenity is a trial by jury. The only way to tell what is obscene at any particular place and time is to make it, be prosecuted for it and go to trial.

    This makes obscenity laws impossible to follow. And since obscenity is not covered by the first amendment, freedom of speech is irrelevant. If some guy downloads your YouTube video in Lancaster County Pennsylvania you could find yourself prosecuted for obscenity according to Amish community standards. This is an extreme example but that is basically the law of the land as defined by SCOTUS in Miller v. California.
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    Re: Adult film director Max Hardcore sentenced to 4 years in prison on obscenity char

    It's interesting that some people are against obscenity laws (which are in question with this case).
    Yet are these same people against Slander or Libel and Symbolic Speech? (These other forms of speech or expression are, also, not protected by the constitution).

    The SCOTUS has tried countless times to define what's obscene and what isn't - coming up short each time, leaving it to a case-by-case basis.

    "To be obscene the work, taken as a whole, must be judged by the average person applying contemporary community standards to appeal to the 'prurient interest' or to depict in a 'patently offensive way, sexual conduct specificaly defined by applicable state law' and to lack 'serious literary, artistic political or scientific value."

    So it depends on which stance you want to take. . .
    Aristotle: believing that viewing quesitonable acts committed on stage is a means of relieving the desire to do them yourself, via catharsis.
    Or Plato: believing that viewing questionable acts on stage only encourages those acts to be committed by the populus.
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