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    Re: Adult film director Max Hardcore sentenced to 4 years in prison on obscenity char

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Hah. Guess I get to be the first to say that I applaud this conviction.

    The material he produced was the worst kind of filth and the world would be a better place without either it or him. I can only hope that the conviction is not overturned on appeal-- and that in either case he does not simply immediately resume his disgusting and antisocial behaviors upon his release from prison.

    Too much to hope for, but I cannot do otherwise.

    There is a difference between depicting abuse and degradation as a subject of fictional material and glamorizing or promoting it as desirable and normal social conduct. His films did the latter and encouraged countless people to treat others as depicted in his films and to view such treatment as normal and healthy. There is no place for such things in a civilized society.
    Hey he never made women eat crap (that I know of). I guess you'd better track down the 2 Girls 1 Cup director next - now that was disgusting.

    BTW, you think that the film actors should be charged for actually engaging in the obscene conduct? All Max did was give them a script and start the films rolling. The actors chose to engage in the obscenity.

    I've also got a list of about 1,000,000 porn videos that you might want to report to the FCC and track down since we've set a new precent for "obscenity laws" with this case.

    What is it with "liberals" who scream tolerance but think it's their business to dictate to others how to be "civilized"?

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    Re: Adult film director Max Hardcore sentenced to 4 years in prison on obscenity char

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    There is a difference between depicting abuse and degradation as a subject of fictional material and glamorizing or promoting it as desirable and normal social conduct. His films did the latter and encouraged countless people to treat others as depicted in his films and to view such treatment as normal and healthy. There is no place for such things in a civilized society.
    Again, can you refer to any empirical research that illustrates a causative link between the prevalence of such material and negative consequences such as increased rates of violent or sexual crimes?

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    Re: Adult film director Max Hardcore sentenced to 4 years in prison on obscenity char

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Again, can you refer to any empirical research that illustrates a causative link between the prevalence of such material and negative consequences such as increased rates of violent or sexual crimes?
    Nope. And I doubt he'll answer my question about whether it's fair just to charge Max, but not the actual film actors either. Or whether the 2 girls 1 cup director should be charged for "making" women eat crap.

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    Re: Adult film director Max Hardcore sentenced to 4 years in prison on obscenity char

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    This is absolutely ridiculous. So when are they going to send Spielberg to prison for depicting the killing so many people? Or Peter Jackson for depicting animal cruelty. Quinton Tarantino and Rob Zombie should be on ****ing death row right now.
    If they ever make unoriginal and uninspired remakes a crime, then, Yes Rob Zombie could be looking at some time.

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    Re: Adult film director Max Hardcore sentenced to 4 years in prison on obscenity char

    Holy ****ing **** he better appeal and WIN. This is absolutely unacceptable.


    EDIT: Apparently this happened a year ago, though?
    Last edited by rivrrat; 10-30-09 at 08:29 PM.

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    Re: Adult film director Max Hardcore sentenced to 4 years in prison on obscenity char

    That is seriously f'd up.

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    Re: Adult film director Max Hardcore sentenced to 4 years in prison on obscenity char

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Hah. Guess I get to be the first to say that I applaud this conviction.
    Guess I'm just another one who detests jack-boot thuggery.

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    Re: Adult film director Max Hardcore sentenced to 4 years in prison on obscenity char

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    The material he produced was the worst kind of filth and the world would be a better place without either it or him. I can only hope that the conviction is not overturned on appeal-- and that in either case he does not simply immediately resume his disgusting and antisocial behaviors upon his release from prison.
    Your opinion of his work (which I happen to agree with your opinion of it) is irrelevant. If you don't approve of his work, don't buy it. There is a thing called the first amendment, you might want to read it sometime.

    This case should be appealed and hopefully overturned.

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    Re: Adult film director Max Hardcore sentenced to 4 years in prison on obscenity char

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Your opinion of his work (which I happen to agree with your opinion of it) is irrelevant. If you don't approve of his work, don't buy it. There is a thing called the first amendment, you might want to read it sometime.

    This case should be appealed and hopefully overturned.
    I don't know why he thinks that Max Hardcore's films have "corrupted normal people". How many "normal people" even know who Max Hardcore is, much less wank to that stuff?

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    Re: Adult film director Max Hardcore sentenced to 4 years in prison on obscenity char

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    It is not illegal nor should it be to be filthy and disgusting or anti social.
    Based on the fact that this conviction occurred, apparently it is still illegal, at least in the state of Florida, and while I am apparently standing alone in saying that it ought to be, I will continue standing for it. Things like the films he produces should not exist, and have no place in a civilized society-- and I will stand behind any reasonable measure designed to keep such things from being produced and distributed in civilized societies, and to keep civilized people from being exposed to them.

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I consider people like Hannity filthy and disgusting as well as this this porn guy but I will fight for their rights.
    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    There is this thing in the United States called the Constitution and the Bill of Rights you might want to read them.
    People do not have any "right" to this kind of filth, and the Courts upheld this for over a hundred years before overturning it. The First Amendment was intended to protect the freedom of conscience, our right to hold our religious, moral, and political beliefs and express them freely. It was never intended to be a shield for this kind of socially and morally corrosive sludge, and the fact that it has been expanded to act as such is as a gross distortion of the law as these films are a distortion of wholesome human sexuality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Also I suggest you read 18 U.S.C 2427 you will find that all of the folks who were part of these films were of legal age and did these with consent.
    Good. That means that they can be charged as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toothpicvic View Post
    Hey he never made women eat crap (that I know of). I guess you'd better track down the 2 Girls 1 Cup director next - now that was disgusting.
    If I could, I would. I've thankfully managed to avoid seeing it so far, but from what I know of its content, it would certainly qualify. The fact that so many people seem to be defending this sort of conduct disturbs me. And the fact that it is impossible to enforce these laws against Internet porn producers-- who are frequently operating out of either liberal or lawless countries-- does not mean that we should not attempt to enforce them when and where we can against people who violate them domestically.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toothpicvic View Post
    I've also got a list of about 1,000,000 porn videos that you might want to report to the FCC and track down since we've set a new precent for "obscenity laws" with this case.
    New precedent? I am certain that these videos would have been found in violation of every obscenity law that has ever been written-- especially within the United States-- and that the degree to which Mr. Little has indulged in such obscenity would have been considered unthinkable in any era in which those laws were routinely enforced.

    With any luck, this conviction will establish that once again there are a set of bare minimum guidelines for decency which must be observed in the production of materials for public consumption.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toothpicvic View Post
    What is it with "liberals" who scream tolerance but think it's their business to dictate to others how to be "civilized"?
    Look to the left of this, or any of my other, posts and tell me where you see the word "liberal." In fact, I dare you to find a post of mine where I endeavor to defend "rights" or freedom in general outside of a carefully constrained list-- which is limited either to those freedoms which are most conducive to a citizen being capable of fulfilling his duties to society, or to those freedoms which are essential to limiting the degree of corruption in government.

    Hell, when have I ever spoken up in favor of "tolerance" as either a moral or civic virtue?

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