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    Re: Vermont to Register Non-Gun Owners?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Boo on that! I'm not so sure they should be allowed to. In general, I see no problem with it. If people want to practice militia crap, I don't see a problem with it. If it's overtly anti-government; I can see how the government would have a problem. But I think the SCOTUS overstepped it's boundaries a bit on that ruling as I fear it significantly infringes upon assembly and association.
    It's a long-standing ruling tho, that dates back to 1886.

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    Re: Vermont to Register Non-Gun Owners?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I just want to make sure I understand you correctly, lest I get accused of creating a strawman. Tell me if/where I am misrepresenting your views:

    1. Participation in the militia is compulsory (should it ever be necessary), and your participation is assumed.
    2. A militia requires the militiamen to own a gun...but since owning a gun isn't mandatory, participating in the militia is NOT compulsory.
    3. There needs to be a registry for people who DON'T own guns, so that they can be excluded from something they are legally compelled to do.
    4. A registry of non-gun owners is an effective way of knowing who can't be a part of the militia, even though participation is compulsory anyway and even though people could sell their guns at the last minute to avoid service if the state ever called them up for duty.
    5. The state has a compelling interest in registering 90-year-old women as non-gun owners, to prove that they can't be part of the militia.

    Actually, they want to publish the list of people who DON'T own guns so the criminals will know who it's safe to rob.

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    Re: Vermont to Register Non-Gun Owners?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Actually, they want to publish the list of people who DON'T own guns so the criminals will know who it's safe to rob.
    LOL crunch ya finally made me laugh.

    Also blame the victim not criminal for not having a gun LOL

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    Re: Vermont to Register Non-Gun Owners?

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    It's a long-standing ruling tho, that dates back to 1886.
    God damned it, Jefferson was right!

    "The judiciary of the United States is the subtle corps of sappers and miners constantly working under ground to undermine the foundations of our confederated fabric. They are construing our constitution from a co-ordination of a general and special government to a general and supreme one alone. "

    "Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have. The course of history shows us that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

    "The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground."
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Vermont to Register Non-Gun Owners?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    God damned it, Jefferson was right!

    "The judiciary of the United States is the subtle corps of sappers and miners constantly working under ground to undermine the foundations of our confederated fabric. They are construing our constitution from a co-ordination of a general and special government to a general and supreme one alone. "

    "Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have. The course of history shows us that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

    "The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground."

    Hey, Jefferson really didn't like the courts, did he?

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    Re: Vermont to Register Non-Gun Owners?

    I think he was reasonably suspicious of that branch of government for sure. It's relatively easy to constrain legislature and executive; but it's harder to get a net around the judiciary. Especially if they assume they have the power to declare things unconstitutional or not.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Vermont to Register Non-Gun Owners?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think he was reasonably suspicious of that branch of government for sure. It's relatively easy to constrain legislature and executive; but it's harder to get a net around the judiciary. Especially if they assume they have the power to declare things unconstitutional or not.

    And have lifetime tenure .... I would be in favor of terms for SC justices. (Long terms, but terms, nonetheless.)

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    Re: Vermont to Register Non-Gun Owners?

    Alright lets define how and what a State Militia is,

    In the State of Mass. which Maine was part of, if you were over the age of 16 a Free Male you were required by State law to be part of the Militia your name was on record with the your local town scribe. Your were require to keeping in working order the following 1 Long barrow Free Firing Rifle,1 Short barrow rifle pistol. Also Gentlemen of Rank were required to maintain the above along with a Cutter Sword and provide funds for drill of the local Militia Group.

    Now what has change since this not much if you go back and look at most US State's Const. you will find some sort of mention of standing Militia and what they are required to have and when they must drill.

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    Re: Vermont to Register Non-Gun Owners?

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    LiveLeak.com - Vermont to Register Non-Gun Owners?



    Hahah. Of course, I don't really agree with databasing and registering...well most anyone. So I really wouldn't support something like this. But I like the idea of it, makes me laugh. Why should the gun owners be the one's to register, we're just exercising a right. It's much better to register non-gun owners as they're the one's refusing to do their duty to the Republic and will be useless in a zombie fight.

    Umm...I also don't know why there's a video with that link, there's other links

    A Novel Idea. Register non-gun owners - Patriotic Resistance
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    Re: Vermont to Register Non-Gun Owners?

    WHAHAHAHahahahahahahaha...

    Oh that was a good laugh...see how they like the shoe on the other foot.


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