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    Re: Vermont to Register Non-Gun Owners?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    What would be the purpose in registering non-gun owners? So that when your non-gun isn't found at the scene of the crime, the cops will know you're innocent?
    No, so you can be rubber hosed for not having your gun.
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    Re: Vermont to Register Non-Gun Owners?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Orius, apparently ready my posts isn't something you like to do before making assumptions. As stated SEVERAL TIMES NOW in this very thread. I don't actually support the legislation. Thanks for playing, please in the future try to pay attention.
    I read your posts and found them ambiguous... I wanted you to clarify, for me.

    But thanks for eating my head off over nothing. That felt nice.

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    Re: Vermont to Register Non-Gun Owners?

    This legislation should be shot down. The 2nd Amendment doesn't mean that gun ownership is mandatory, it means you have the right to bear arms if you choose and the state cannot infringe upon that.

    Then again, I suppose one extreme reaction triggers another.

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    Re: Vermont to Register Non-Gun Owners?

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    I'm sorry, I understood you to say the national guard was not the militia? Did I misunderstand?
    Just to help clarify things...

    Main Entry: mi·li·tia
    Pronunciation: \mə-ˈli-shə\
    Function: noun
    Etymology: Latin, military service, from milit-, miles
    Date: 1625
    1 a : a part of the organized armed forces of a country liable to call only in emergency b : a body of citizens organized for military service
    2 : the whole body of able-bodied male citizens declared by law as being subject to call to military service
    militia - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

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    Re: Vermont to Register Non-Gun Owners?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    This legislation should be shot down. The 2nd Amendment doesn't mean that gun ownership is mandatory, it means you have the right to bear arms if you choose and the state cannot infringe upon that.

    Then again, I suppose one extreme reaction triggers another.
    Actually it does if you had bother to read what I posted about what the US States define as a Standing State Militia you would noted that almost every State in the United States still has some sort of this document still on the books. Hence yes you are required to own a Gun and be part of a standing Militia.

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    Re: Vermont to Register Non-Gun Owners?

    What I find even more interesting is that most of the folks who are so very much against this idea based solely on the whole "shouldn't be fined for not exercising a right" crap, are the ones who are all for fining me for not exercising my "right" to buy health insurance.

    To some here, having health insurance is a "right". One that I should be fined for not exercising. Why wouldn't this apply to other rights?

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    Re: Vermont to Register Non-Gun Owners?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    This legislation should be shot down. The 2nd Amendment doesn't mean that gun ownership is mandatory, it means you have the right to bear arms if you choose and the state cannot infringe upon that.

    Then again, I suppose one extreme reaction triggers another.
    Very clever.
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    Re: Vermont to Register Non-Gun Owners?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Actually it does if you had bother to read what I posted about what the US States define as a Standing State Militia you would noted that almost every State in the United States still has some sort of this document still on the books. Hence yes you are required to own a Gun and be part of a standing Militia.
    This is Oregon's.


    Military Beginnings
    Oregon has a long and distinguished military history of selfless volunteerism and notable "firsts" described later in this text. Oregon's provisional government passed the first militia law on July 5, 1843, almost sixteen years before Oregon became a state. Soldiers of Oregon's military were not paid for training until 1916, and prior to the Spanish American War, were not paid at all.
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    Re: Vermont to Register Non-Gun Owners?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I read your posts and found them ambiguous... I wanted you to clarify, for me.

    But thanks for eating my head off over nothing. That felt nice.
    Yes cause:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Of course, I don't really agree with databasing and registering...well most anyone. So I really wouldn't support something like this. But I like the idea of it, makes me laugh.
    is not ambiguous at all.
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    Re: Vermont to Register Non-Gun Owners?

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    And have lifetime tenure .... I would be in favor of terms for SC justices. (Long terms, but terms, nonetheless.)
    Yeah, that would be ok. And maybe a way for the People to call for the removal of a Justice. It would have to be a large barrier so you couldn't do it willy nilly; but maybe something. That way if the SCOTUS really f's up; they can be held accountable by the People.
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