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    Re: Marijuana legalization hearing tomorrow in California!

    Marijuana was not made illegal due to coughing or other minor - temporary health symptoms. For the record, only some people experience these anyways. The fact that you even raise that claim proves you have already been defeated in this debate.

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    Re: Marijuana legalization hearing tomorrow in California!

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    Marijuana was not made illegal due to coughing or other minor - temporary health symptoms. For the record, only some people experience these anyways. The fact that you even raise that claim proves you have already been defeated in this debate.
    Bullous disease isn't temporary or minor, it's permanent and it's serious.
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    Re: Marijuana legalization hearing tomorrow in California!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    None of the above is a injurious to our society as marijuana......except for maybe the pet rocks.
    It's obvious that you are heavily biased and either willfully ignorant or simply misinformed. Either way, I suggest you re-assess your arguments if you wish to be taken seriously.
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    Re: Marijuana legalization hearing tomorrow in California!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    You're kidding, right? How exactly does it limit anything? Tons of people smoke pot and the numbers certainly aren't decreasing. You can get it pretty much anywhere if you know the right people (which isn't hard at all). Plus, it really only gets expensive if you are doing tons of it. There are plenty of benefits to making it legal and taxing it because then we get the money instead of drug dealers. It would completely destroy their market, which I think is a good thing.
    Even heavily taxed cigarettes cost much less than marijuana. Legalizing it will increase the amount available and lower it's cost. This is just exactly what you're are arguing for. You are aware of that aren't you?
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    Re: Marijuana legalization hearing tomorrow in California!

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    It's obvious that you are heavily biased and either willfully ignorant or simply misinformed. Either way, I suggest you re-assess your arguments if you wish to be taken seriously.
    I am biased. I oppose the legalization of marijuana. I would have thought that was obvious. I am also quite well informed. If you choose to ignore the research in this area, fine. Why deny me my opinion? Am I not allowed an opinion if it doesn't agree with yours? Why are you so intolerant?

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    Re: Marijuana legalization hearing tomorrow in California!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Even heavily taxed cigarettes cost much less than marijuana. Legalizing it will increase the amount available and lower it's cost. This is just exactly what your are arguing for. You are aware of that aren't you?
    And it would be regulated and distributed to adults, people with the mental capacity to decide what is or is not good for their body. I'll assume you do not know that legalization does not lead to increased usage?
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    Re: Marijuana legalization hearing tomorrow in California!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I am biased. I oppose the legalization of marijuana. I would have thought that was obvious. I am also quite well informed. If you choose to ignore the research in this area, fine. Why deny me my opinion? Am I not allowed an opinion if it doesn't agree with yours? Why are you so intolerant?
    You are more than welcome to have your own opinion. Just as I am allowed to have an opinion of you.
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    Re: Marijuana legalization hearing tomorrow in California!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Even heavily taxed cigarettes cost much less than marijuana. Legalizing it will increase the amount available and lower it's cost. This is just exactly what your are arguing for. You are aware of that aren't you?
    Absolutely. I know a lot of people like to pigeonhole people who support legalization as pot smokers. I personally don't smoke pot and haven't done so since I was in high school. Even though people say it's not addictive, my late uncle (who had an addictive personality) was addicted to marijuana for years and years. It obviously affected him more because of he was more prone to addiction. Regardless of all of that, I still see no reason to not legalize it. The difference between you and I is that I actually like people to have a choice regardless of my personal opinion on marijuana. I don't blame marijuana abuse on marijuana, but the person abusing it. It's the same exact kind of argument on gun control. Often when there is a shooting, the issue gets brought up. Anti-gun people place the blame on a gun rather than placing the blame on the person pulling the trigger. It's stupid to place the blame on an inanimate object.

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    Re: Marijuana legalization hearing tomorrow in California!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Even heavily taxed cigarettes cost much less than marijuana. Legalizing it will increase the amount available and lower it's cost. This is just exactly what your are arguing for. You are aware of that aren't you?
    What ever the price it will not affect my consumption.

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    Re: Marijuana legalization hearing tomorrow in California!

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    And it would be regulated and distributed to adults, people with the mental capacity to decide what is or is not good for their body. I'll assume you do not know that legalization does not lead to increased usage?
    You mean like tobacco?


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    •Compared to nonsmokers, men who smoke are about 23 times more likely to develop lung cancer and women who smoke are about 13 times more likely. Smoking causes about 90% of lung cancer deaths in men and almost 80% in women.
    •In 2003, an estimated 171,900 new cases of lung cancer occurred and approximately 157,200 people died from lung cancer.
    •The 2004 Surgeon General's report adds more evidence to previous conclusions that smoking causes cancers of the oral cavity, pharynx, larynx, esophagus, lung and bladder.
    •Cancer-causing agents (carcinogens) in tobacco smoke damage important genes that control the growth of cells, causing them to grow abnormally or to reproduce too rapidly.
    •Cigarette smoking is a major cause of esophageal cancer in the United States. Reductions in smoking and smokeless tobacco use could prevent many of the approximately 12,300 new cases and 12,100 deaths from esophgeal cancer that occur annually.
    •The combination of smoking and alcohol consumption causes most laryngeal cancer cases. In 2003, an estimated 3800 deaths occurred from laryngeal cancer.
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    •Reductions in the number of people who smoke cigarettes, pipes, cigars, and other tobacco products or use smokeless tobacco could prevent most of the estimated 30,200 new cases and 7,800 deaths from oral cavity and pharynx cancers annually in the United States.

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