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    Re: Marijuana legalization hearing tomorrow in California!

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    Re: Marijuana legalization hearing tomorrow in California!

    Dutch:

    As a frequent patron to many Dutch coffee shops, an up and coming trend is emerging:Amsterdam Coffeeshop Directory - Coffee Shops


    Vapourising is an alternative to smoking. It is achieved by heating cannabis slightly less than would cause it to burn but sufficiently hot to cause the THC and other oils to be released as vapour. This vapour is then inhaled and absorbed through the lungs in a similar fashion to smoking. This has many advantages over smoking in terms of efficiency and healthiness and delivers a much faster hit than eating the cannabis.

    Vaporizers of various designs (and spellings!) have been around for many years now and are often found in Dutch coffeeshops and in places like the Cannabis College, Hash Museum and Cannabis Cup venues. They employ a variety of methods of heating the cannabis and delivering the vapour.
    The simplest devices use a lighter to heat air in a glass tube which is then drawn over the bud by manual sucking.
    Some more sophisticated mains-powered vapourisers use a hotplate to heat the bud, collecting the vapour in a chamber from which it is then inhaled. Others use a heat gun as a source of hot air often combined with bong-style water cooling for the vapour.

    Now its makers, Storz & Bickel, have sent us one to test. Everyone who's tried it has been impressed. Just a small amount of herb is sufficient to stone a room full of people because nothing is wasted on combustion. I have no hesitation in recommending the Volcano as the best but I'm glad I didn't have to pay for mine 'cos they're bloody expensive!

    You can try out a Volcano vaporizer in any of these Amsterdam coffeeshops: Barney's, Blue Velvet, Bushdocter, Chocolata, Dampkring, El Guapo, Greenhouse Centrum, Grey Area, Homegrown Fantasy, Katsu, Kingstone, de Kuil (420 Cafe), Noon, Prix D'Ami, Rokerij, Rookies, Rusland, Sensi Coffeeshop, Smoking Bull, Softland, Tweede Kamer.
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    Re: Marijuana legalization hearing tomorrow in California!

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    Tobacco should be illegal as well. If used as directed....it will amost certainly kill you.


    Good luck trying to make tobacco illegal.

    It's a very slippery slope. If they were to make tobacco illegal, they could very easily go after other things that are considered bad for us. Personally, I don't want the government to have that much control over me. I should be able to eat, drink and smoke what I want even if it is considered bad for me. People need to accept responsibility for their actions instead of blaming alcohol, tobacco or marijuana.

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    Re: Marijuana legalization hearing tomorrow in California!

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
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    As a frequent patron to many Dutch coffee shops, an up and coming trend is emerging:Amsterdam Coffeeshop Directory - Coffee Shops
    As long as lung damage doesn't occur and there is no physical damage, or impairment to long term cognitive ability, and it's legal, I have no objection. I'll wait for the studies. Until then, my opinion remains the same.


    ...and no, legal/illegal, lung damage/no lung damage I won't be using the product, thank you anyway.

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    Re: Marijuana legalization hearing tomorrow in California!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post


    Good luck trying to make tobacco illegal.

    It's a very slippery slope. If they were to make tobacco illegal, they could very easily go after other things that are considered bad for us. Personally, I don't want the government to have that much control over me. I should be able to eat, drink and smoke what I want even if it is considered bad for me. People need to accept responsibility for their actions instead of blaming alcohol, tobacco or marijuana.
    You asked my opnion. I gave you my honest opinion. I don't see them making tobacco illegal either but that doesn't mean we should compound the damage by making marijuana legal. As for the slippery slope argument goes, I don't much buy it. We can't make everything legal just as we can't make everything illegal. What we can do is the very best we can as a society. Keeping marijuana illegal and discouraging it's use by members of our society is doing the best we can.

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    Re: Marijuana legalization hearing tomorrow in California!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    You asked my opnion. I gave you my honest opinion. I don't see them making tobacco illegal either but that doesn't mean we should compound the damage by making marijuana legal. As for the slippery slope argument goes, I don't much buy it. We can't make everything legal just as we can't make everything illegal. What we can do is the very best we can as a society. Keeping marijuana illegal and discouraging it's use by members of our society is doing the best we can.
    Have you ever smoked marijuana?

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    Re: Marijuana legalization hearing tomorrow in California!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    You asked my opnion. I gave you my honest opinion. I don't see them making tobacco illegal either but that doesn't mean we should compound the damage by making marijuana legal. As for the slippery slope argument goes, I don't much buy it. We can't make everything legal just as we can't make everything illegal. What we can do is the very best we can as a society. Keeping marijuana illegal and discouraging it's use by members of our society is doing the best we can.
    What is the damage inflicted by keeping marijuana illegal? Does the benefit out way making it legal.

    As far as I know I can pretty much get pot anytime I want to so keeping it illegal certianly does not affect supply.

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    Re: Marijuana legalization hearing tomorrow in California!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Have you ever smoked marijuana?
    Copious quantities.

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    Re: Marijuana legalization hearing tomorrow in California!

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    What is the damage inflicted by keeping marijuana illegal? Does the benefit out way making it legal.

    As far as I know I can pretty much get pot anytime I want to so keeping it illegal certianly does not affect supply.
    It's keeping the price higher than it would otherwise be which limits it's distribution among the populace.

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    Re: Marijuana legalization hearing tomorrow in California!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    It's keeping the price higher than it would otherwise be which limits it's distribution among the populace.
    You're kidding, right? How exactly does it limit anything? Tons of people smoke pot and the numbers certainly aren't decreasing. You can get it pretty much anywhere if you know the right people (which isn't hard at all). Plus, it really only gets expensive if you are doing tons of it. There are plenty of benefits to making it legal and taxing it because then we get the money instead of drug dealers. It would completely destroy their market, which I think is a good thing.

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