You might think it is okay, but we both know the US was in breach of Human rights for the first 20 years after they were part of the countries to found the treaty. Yes segregation is against the treaty. In the end it took new legislation to stop the practice. Yes the UN had no doing in that, but I bet it did point out that segregation was against the UN human rights treaty and made the issue public. That is the whole point.
Another point is that no country should be excluded either way regardless of their human rights record, and if said country is living up to the treaty then good for them, but saying no to an investigation by the UN or anyone else is pretty much the same as Saddam and Iran saying no to UN inspectors when it came to WMD. If you are doing nothing wrong then why refuse an look in by international organisations? Is that not the argument you lot used against Saddam and so on?
We can not as a democratic nation set ourselves above others just because we think we are superior. Take Israel. Yes it gets more stick from the UN than some other countries, I agree, but just because it is Israel should that mean they should be given a free pass? The UN and other humanitarian organisations for years claimed Israel was using torture, and Israel denied doing so. And then one day they were forced to admit that they had and the UN and other humanitarian organisations were correct in their accusations. Just because Israel is a supposed democracy like the US, Spain, UK and the rest of the west, does not mean that governments are not capable of breaching human rights. In fact I should think that the west would welcome any investigation into them to prove their superiority on human rights over for the "usual suspects"...
But yes, the UN Human Rights Organisation should do more to promote human rights abuses in the "usual suspect" countries, and the media should do more to show that they are looking into it.
The way you guys are acting is like you have something to hide... have you?
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Last edited by PeteEU; 10-27-09 at 07:09 AM.
Thanks for the link. This definitely stands in stark contrast to the US torture in Abu Graib, where there was only a limited involvment of the chain of command. This example goes to the top of Shin Bet. Here it says of the torture: "the most common techniques were violent shaking, tying up prisoners in painful positions, subjecting them to extreme heat or cold, beating and kicking" and I would say only the beating and kicking was torture. Those are the only techniques that would leave lasting damage.