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    Why the Puplic Option is a failure

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    A couple things I would like to point out Speaker of the Maine House Hannah Pingree was the chair of the Health and Human Service Committee this is the committee that oversee's Dirgo Health. She also is one of the most Left Wing Democrates in the State. So when she say's its a failure then I think some folks in DC need to start listing.

    The other item is please noted that both Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe are against any Puplic Option.

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    I saw this on TV, Washington is too stupid to listen. Amazing with the size of Obama's ears, you'd think he could. But when you know it better than anyone else, that's the common downside.
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    Re: Why the Puplic Option is a failure

    Is Snowe against the triggered public option? I haven't seen too much recent info on that, but she was advocating for a triggered public option.


    Dirigo Health is a bust. It is not big enough, and the coverage it offered was crappy. I'm sure Dirigo, along with other various state experiments, did inform much of the structure of the current options being considered.

    I'd say Dirigo is a good argument for a widely available, robust public option, along with an individual mandate. It needed a wider base of subscribers, and not just sick ones.

    (btw, here's a link to a transcript: 'Universal Nightmare 2.0' Special: The Maine Lesson - Hannity - FOXNews.com )

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    Re: Why the Puplic Option is a failure

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Is Snowe against the triggered public option? I haven't seen too much recent info on that, but she was advocating for a triggered public option.


    Dirigo Health is a bust. It is not big enough, and the coverage it offered was crappy. I'm sure Dirigo, along with other various state experiments, did inform much of the structure of the current options being considered.

    I'd say Dirigo is a good argument for a widely available, robust public option, along with an individual mandate. It needed a wider base of subscribers, and not just sick ones.

    (btw, here's a link to a transcript: 'Universal Nightmare 2.0' Special: The Maine Lesson - Hannity - FOXNews.com )
    From what I have been hearing, she is expected to still support a triggered option, and that is the most likely form to come out of the senate, largely to appease her.
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    Re: Why the Puplic Option is a failure

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    From what I have been hearing, she is expected to still support a triggered option, and that is the most likely form to come out of the senate, largely to appease her.
    So the future of American health care is dependent upon the preference of one person out of 300 million.

    I'm pretty sure this is not the way it was supposed to work.

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    Re: Why the Puplic Option is a failure

    Quote Originally Posted by Don't Tase Me Bro View Post
    So the future of American health care is dependent upon the preference of one person out of 300 million.

    I'm pretty sure this is not the way it was supposed to work.
    Do you really think that only one person in 300 million supports a public health care option?

    Whether we like it or not, leaders are required to make the system work. When people in these leadership positions make decisions that we support, we like it. When they make decisions we do not like, we do not like it.

    Anything that gets through the Congressional system must convince a mjority of the Congress that it is right. It must also have a sizeable enough majority to override a veto to become law, and then there is still the possibility of the Supreme Court striking down a stupid law.

    There is a way to influence the system: Vote. Somebody voted for the people in Congress, and the people in Congress elected their leaders.

    There is just no way that any Congressional leader can appease every political block in America. It won't happen. That is the nature of our country.

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    Re: Why the Puplic Option is a failure

    Quote Originally Posted by Don't Tase Me Bro View Post
    So the future of American health care is dependent upon the preference of one person out of 300 million.

    I'm pretty sure this is not the way it was supposed to work.
    It's not, without 60(or 50 with reconciliation), it will never pass, and further, those people represent the will of their constituents, who can remove them any election.
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    Re: Why the Puplic Option is a failure

    Quote Originally Posted by gree0232 View Post
    Do you really think that only one person in 300 million supports a public health care option?

    Whether we like it or not, leaders are required to make the system work. When people in these leadership positions make decisions that we support, we like it. When they make decisions we do not like, we do not like it.

    Anything that gets through the Congressional system must convince a mjority of the Congress that it is right. It must also have a sizeable enough majority to override a veto to become law, and then there is still the possibility of the Supreme Court striking down a stupid law.

    There is a way to influence the system: Vote. Somebody voted for the people in Congress, and the people in Congress elected their leaders.

    There is just no way that any Congressional leader can appease every political block in America. It won't happen. That is the nature of our country.
    No, the welfare whores who want something for nothing in Maine want a public option, so she supports it.
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    Re: Why the Puplic Option is a failure

    Screw this debate over Public Option as framed by politicians who don't give a damn about what "We The People" want or need. This who HOAX of reform has nothing whatever to do with your health care it's about control.
    The house came out with a 1,000 plus page idea, and the senate has one over 1,500 pages.
    I say take 10 Democrats, 10 Republicans, 10 Doctors lock them in a room with no windows and only a bathroom no food only water and give them 10 sheets of paper and tell them you get to go home and get some sleep when you come up with health care reform. We'll tackle insurance reform next and separately.
    Oh yea I'd also tell Obama to sit down shut up and you get to sign the law but you don't get to make it into a socialist system.


    All this B.S. is not solving a damn thing it's only leading us into bigger government and giving that government more control over our lives and taking our freedoms away and it's not necessary to fix the problems. What is required is as my father used to tell me when approaching any task. Be systematic and logical determine a starting point and work in that direction until you reach your goal. Complicating everything we do is what got us into this mess in the first place. Making sense for a change could get us out.

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    Re: Why the Puplic Option is a failure

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    No, the welfare whores who want something for nothing in Maine want a public option, so she supports it.
    May I ask who is "She" you are referring to ??

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