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    Re: Why the Puplic Option is a failure

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    What makes the federal government think that they can do better for a whole country?
    They can't. Anything the government gets total control of will be a failure, both economically and in quality. To see what a government- run health care system will be like, all you need to do is visit your local public hospital/clinic or a VA facility. There are a handful of VA hospitals that are high-quality, but the general consensus from the vets I know who use VA clinics and hospitals is negative. Much of it is due to the bureaucracy, red tape, and inefficiency.

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    Re: Why the Puplic Option is a failure

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    They can't. Anything the government gets total control of will be a failure, both economically and in quality. To see what a government- run health care system will be like, all you need to do is visit your local public hospital/clinic or a VA facility. There are a handful of VA hospitals that are high-quality, but the general consensus from the vets I know who use VA clinics and hospitals is negative. Much of it is due to the bureaucracy, red tape, and inefficiency.
    When you remove the profit incentive.. it's amazing how quality goes down hill isn't it?
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    Re: Why the Puplic Option is a failure

    Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) said Tuesday that he’d back a GOP filibuster of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s health care reform bill.


    Lieberman, who caucuses with Democrats and is positioning himself as a fiscal hawk on the issue, said he opposes any health care bill that includes a government-run insurance program — even if it includes a provision allowing states to opt out of the program, as Reid has said the Senate bill will.


    "We're trying to do too much at once," Lieberman said. “To put this government-created insurance company on top of everything else is just asking for trouble for the taxpayers, for the premium payers and for the national debt. I don’t think we need it now."
    Joe Lieberman: I'll block vote on Harry Reid's plan - Manu Raju - POLITICO.com


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    Re: Why the Puplic Option is a failure

    Dems mustve done something to piss him off.
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    Re: Why the Puplic Option is a failure

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    When you remove the profit incentive.. it's amazing how quality goes down hill isn't it?
    Yes, it is. I'm not sure if it's because it is in our nature, as humans, to expect reward for a good service or product, or if it's an American mentality thing. I tend to think the former is more likely. With health care, we have a mixed bag, in a manner of speaking. Most of the people who provide direct hands-on care of people and their health matters, have at least a moderate amount of altruism in their psychological make-up. Sure, they want to be paid well for their work, but they also do it because they care about the well-being of others. Many in the patient care professions know that government-run health care will limit their ability to perform a high-quality service for their patients. I have worked in both public and private health care facilities. The patient care and attitudes of personnel are, by far, better in the private sector.

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    Re: Why the Puplic Option is a failure

    heard a good argument on Cavuto today, that if the dems lose too many off year elections, that the healthcare bill is DOA. Too many dems would not be willing to put their neck on the line after such a perceived change in the country

    I pray he was right, and that his conditions are met
    Believe his name was Pat, wanna say Caddell, he has a goatee, and is a dem strategist I believe

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    Re: Why the Puplic Option is a failure

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    Believe his name was Pat, wanna say Caddell, he has a goatee, and is a dem strategist I believe
    Yeah, Pat Cadell is a liberal democrat, but an honest one who is disturbed at what he sees going on in DC lately. I believe he worked for Carter, but I may be mistaken. He seems to be a really decent man.

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    Re: Why the Puplic Option is a failure

    "Nightly News

    But what has changed is that support for a government-run insurance plan is now at its highest level since the debate began. Forty-eight percent say they favor a public health plan administered by the federal government that would compete with private insurers, compared with 42 percent who oppose."
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    Re: Why the Puplic Option is a failure

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "Nightly News

    But what has changed is that support for a government-run insurance plan is now at its highest level since the debate began. Forty-eight percent say they favor a public health plan administered by the federal government that would compete with private insurers, compared with 42 percent who oppose."
    NBC/WSJ poll: Support for Afghan surge rises - White House- msnbc.com
    As long as they dont have to be on it......


    “The most important fundamental is that 68% of American voters have health insurance coverage they rate good or excellent. … Most of these voters approach the health care reform debate fearing that they have more to lose than to gain.”


    Health Care Reform
    57% Say Health Care Plan Will Increase Costs, 53% Say It Will Reduce Quality of Care, 45% Favor Passage
    Thank you

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