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    Re: The Face of Gay Marriage? Video clip from Maine newscast

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Homosexuals can marry anyone of the opposite sex just like everyone else.

    Equality achieved.
    And when gay marriage is legalized, heterosexuals can marry anyone of the same sex just like gays can. Equality achieved as well.

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    Re: The Face of Gay Marriage? Video clip from Maine newscast

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Gays in CA have each and every single civil right as heteros under Domestic Partnership. That's equality under the law.
    Domestic partnership is a shadow of the legal rights marriage provides. How disingenuous of you.

    Seeking the word "marriage" is not about legal equality, it's about social acceptance. I would give the pro-gm movement a lot more respect if they would at least admit that so we could have an honest discussion from there.
    No, it is about equality. Separate but equal does not work. We learned this lesson once already.

    Just as women's right to vote was not about equality until the 19th amendment, neither is gay-marriage.


    Maybe we should make gay-marriage, but today the cut-n-dry matter of fact is it's not a civil rights issue and it's not about equality.
    I think this is the point that you and I should probably walk away from this conversation and just meet up on WoW later this weekend.

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    Re: The Face of Gay Marriage? Video clip from Maine newscast

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Homosexuals can marry anyone of the opposite sex just like everyone else.

    Equality achieved.
    that's a ridiculous statement, heard many times. what is your particular problem with gay marriage?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: The Face of Gay Marriage? Video clip from Maine newscast

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Domestic partnership is a shadow of the legal rights marriage provides. How disingenuous of you.
    It's can't be accurately called a "shadow" when gays have everything the state also gives heteros.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No, it is about equality.
    Without children involved the state has no reason to poke it's nose in your bedroom, so why you would invite the state in when a few documents from legalzoom.com would do the same thing is beyond me.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I think this is the point that you and I should probably walk away from this conversation and just meet up on WoW later this weekend.
    In point of fact I'm posting while in flight, trying to complete Tricks and Treats of Eastern Kingdoms

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    Re: The Face of Gay Marriage? Video clip from Maine newscast

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It's can't be accurately called a "shadow" when gays have everything the state also gives heteros.
    They don't. There's about 130 rights' difference between marriage and domestic partnership. More if you consider the federal level.

    Without children involved the state has no reason to poke it's nose in your bedroom, so why you would invite the state in when a few documents from legalzoom.com would do the same thing is beyond me.
    If having children were a requirement of marriage, you would have a point.

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    Re: The Face of Gay Marriage? Video clip from Maine newscast

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post

    Without children involved the state has no reason to poke it's nose in your bedroom, so why you would invite the state in when a few documents from legalzoom.com would do the same thing is beyond me.
    Does this mean you are going to try and use children to confuse the whole issue again? Don't you get tired of having that whole argument destroyed time and again?
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    Re: The Face of Gay Marriage? Video clip from Maine newscast

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    that's a ridiculous statement, heard many times.
    Truth is ridiculous in your eyes. What a perverted world view you have.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    what is your particular problem with gay marriage?
    I don't know that I have any problem with gay-marriage.

    That doesn't mean I'm going to adopt just any argument in favor of it. Truth has value to me, even though you think truth "ridiculous", so I'm not going to lie just to get my way.

    Maybe we should create gay-marriage, maybe society would be better off, but until we do, the right to marry a person of the same sex does not exist, therefore it's not an issue of equality.

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    Re: The Face of Gay Marriage? Video clip from Maine newscast

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Truth is ridiculous in your eyes. What a perverted world view you have.



    I don't know that I have any problem with gay-marriage.

    That doesn't mean I'm going to adopt just any argument in favor of it. Truth has value to me, even though you think truth "ridiculous", so I'm not going to lie just to get my way.

    Maybe we should create gay-marriage, maybe society would be better off, but until we do, the right to marry a person of the same sex does not exist, therefore it's not an issue of equality.
    why doesn't that right exist, if the right to marry the opposite sex does? where did THAT right come from? as long as a person can't marry who they choose to marry, they are not being treated equally.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: The Face of Gay Marriage? Video clip from Maine newscast

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    They don't. There's about 130 rights' difference between marriage and domestic partnership. More if you consider the federal level.
    Yeah I've seen those lists, their about as fake as this alleged right to visit a spouse in the hospital, being filled with companies failing on their own to comply with the law or unexplored legal issues.

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    Re: The Face of Gay Marriage? Video clip from Maine newscast

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Yeah I've seen those lists, their about as fake as this alleged right to visit a spouse in the hospital, being filled with companies failing on their own to comply with the law or unexplored legal issues.
    So then, you are gonna try to peddle your opinion and not anything of substance or fact?

    What makes them so fake, jerry?

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