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    Re: Obama suggests Fox News is like 'talk radio'

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I do not think they are attempting to control the media. I think they are attempting to control their image. Fox news is still free to do what ever they want to do.
    Control is control. By banning a fox correspondent from the pay czar interview they are sending a loud and clear message......to the other networks "do as we say or we will punish you too." Not so subtle, not something the president of the united states should be doing.

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    Re: Obama suggests Fox News is like 'talk radio'

    This is one area I think the President should just leave alone. While it's not the first time he's referred to Fox News (indirectly) as "talk radio on TV", fighting with them does him no good. Fox News will conduct their affairs as they see fit. Ostracizing them won't change much. You might be able to scare FoxNews into softening their tone alittle just so they'll be brought into this political story or that one as feed directly from the White House, but such a strategy is more likely to make Fox News push harder.

    Nothing good can truly come of this.

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    Re: Obama suggests Fox News is like 'talk radio'

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Actually Murdoch leans so far right he is willing to lose money to promote a right wing agenda. Case in point the New York Post where News Corp loses 73 million a year. Also News Corp is about 2 billion in the hole.
    Murdoch, though a libertarian, goes where the market could be. Also remember that this is a bad time for news media as a whole.
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    Re: Obama suggests Fox News is like 'talk radio'

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Actually I think their position is tohalt disinformation not punish.
    White House Press Pool Stands Up For Fox News


    Unfortunately the white house pay czar press conference went ahead after a near revolt of the media so your goal of halting disinformation failed miserably.
    Thank you

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    Re: Obama suggests Fox News is like 'talk radio'

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    White House Press Pool Stands Up For Fox News


    Unfortunately the white house pay czar press conference went ahead after a near revolt of the media so your goal of halting disinformation failed miserably.
    A good point was made; obama is demonizing fox news just like he was demonizing the townhall protestors. I just have to wonder who's next on obama's enemies list.

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    Re: Obama suggests Fox News is like 'talk radio'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    A good point was made; obama is demonizing fox news just like he was demonizing the townhall protestors. I just have to wonder who's next on obama's enemies list.
    Humana, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, etc.

    Anyone who criticizes him loudly enough to be heard. There are no exceptions.

    This was all evident through the campaign, where he and his allies tried, through intimidation and even legal means, to silence his critics. Ask Stanley Kurtz.
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    Re: Obama suggests Fox News is like 'talk radio'

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    The 'Bama should not have stepped in that pile of dog whump but he is correc t that Fox Newz is like talk radio. Let us get real Fox has Glenn Wreck and Shaun Vannity and an regular peppering of not so open minded talkers and "newzy " oozies...
    The opinion part of the day is not "like" talk radio. It is talk radio with added video. Hannity is a continuation of his radio program. It is difficult to believe they have not even looked at it hard enough to realize that when they are attacking it. Illegally I might add.

    The morning section is news just like anywhere else. It is the same on the other cable stations except with opposite opinion pieces.
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    Re: Obama suggests Fox News is like 'talk radio'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    He's trying to deny white house access as a way to punish fox news reporters.
    I think the next step should be letting them in and not calling on them for years to ask questions as Bush did to Helen Thomas.

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    Re: Obama suggests Fox News is like 'talk radio'

    Interestingly enough, I do think FOX news and its obvious slant DOES need to be talked about.

    This is not an attempt to say that everything coming out of FOX is worthless. Far from it. However, FOX is the first modern news station to openly embrace a politicial slant. There is not even the pretense of impartiality in FOX's presentation of the news.

    FOX routinely charges the rest of the media as being biased, and yet it is FOX that has deliberately embraced bias? Curious.

    I would challenge anyone to make the case that NPR's story on Afghanistan below has a liberal bias that FOX needs to counter.

    FRONTLINE: obama's war: watch the full program online | PBS

    FOX may be the only current news organization to have openly embraced bias, but it is hardly the first time a news outlet has embraced bias. Earlier in our countries history, the practice was quite common. It was called yellow journalism. There is a reason that these yellow practices were swept aside in the profession, and the unbiased presentation of the news is necessary and critical to the functioning of a democracy.

    I worry about FOX's overt embracing of a particular point of view because it undermines journalisms role in our society. Obama may be tackling the problem in the wrong manner, which is almost certainly true, but the concern of a deliberately biased press is a valid one.

    Can FOX be fair and balance and openly embrace bias? What facts go unreported? What scrutiny does the Republican party fail to get when FOX is looking? Are we in danger of both parties feeding priviledged information to their journalistic mouth pieces? Do we really want journalism sources that are tied to political parties? Is that good for America?

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    Re: Obama suggests Fox News is like 'talk radio'

    Fox does have many of it's employees on talk radio:

    Napolitano, Kilmeade, Colmes, Beck, Hannity, Gibson and more.

    I like the Brian & The Judge show myself. I think it's the best one on Fox Radio.

    I would also add that a very prominent liberal talk radio host, Alex Bennett, said that Fox was "the most professional" cable news organization that he'd appeared on. Bennett had also been on MSNBC and CNN; he called their professionalism "amateur" compared to Fox. He also believed that Fox did have more fair news coverage than CNN or MSNBC.
    Last edited by kansaswhig; 10-24-09 at 11:42 PM.

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