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    Re: Senators to strip health insurers

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Myself I really don’t give a damn why it is being done, just geterdone. If it’s for political reasons so be it, sometimes-good things happen when things get put in for “political reasons”.

    Whoever put that in might look back in a couple of years and see unintended consequences, the rest of the country might see insurance competition.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ yea ... that !

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    Re: Senators to strip health insurers

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post

    You mean competition like this?


    <In at least 21 states, one carrier controls more than half the market. More than half of the market is controlled by two carriers in at least 39 states. In 2007, a survey conducted by the American Medical Association found that in more than 95 percent of insurance markets, a single commercial carrier controlled at least 30 percent of the insurance market>

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    What's important is having choices. If everyone ends up going for the same one or two choices, so be it.

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    Re: Senators to strip health insurers

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post

    You mean competition like this?


    <In at least 21 states, one carrier controls more than half the market. More than half of the market is controlled by two carriers in at least 39 states. In 2007, a survey conducted by the American Medical Association found that in more than 95 percent of insurance markets, a single commercial carrier controlled at least 30 percent of the insurance market>

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    Federal regulations prevent other carriers from competeing, so yes, exactly like that.
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    Re: Senators to strip health insurers

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Myself I really don’t give a damn why it is being done, just geterdone. If it’s for political reasons so be it, sometimes-good things happen when things get put in for “political reasons”.

    Whoever put that in might look back in a couple of years and see unintended consequences, the rest of the country might see insurance competition.
    Did they stop to think about how all the cost of reorganizing, renegotiating, and working of contracts, assets, etc is going to get passed on in premium costs?

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    Re: Senators to strip health insurers

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Did they stop to think about how all the cost of reorganizing, renegotiating, and working of contracts, assets, etc is going to get passed on in premium costs?
    Sure they did. It's part of the plan. This is the road to single payer health insurance.
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    Re: Senators to strip health insurers

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Sure they did. It's part of the plan. This is the road to single payer health insurance.




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    Re: Senators to strip health insurers

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Did they stop to think about how all the cost of reorganizing, renegotiating, and working of contracts, assets, etc is going to get passed on in premium costs?

    I would think that United/Coventry, whatever insurance that has a state to themselves, when they found themselves with some competition from a couple of other insurers, plus maybe a start up or three, would see if they could be a bit more efficient.
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    Re: Senators to strip health insurers

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    What cracks me up the most are all the people who scream about free markets, and then scream about how insurance companies need an exemption from free markets. LOL.
    So you consider anti-trust regulation to be a plus for the free market? I thought state intervention in the economy is the antithesis to a free market. The invisible hand of the free market replaced by the iron fist of the state.

    I mean the problem of a lack of competition in the insurance industry couldn't have been solved in another way, by (I don't know) stop making it illegal to get insurance from out of state providers. Nah that would never work, because that would entail less governmental regulation and not more, and the jack booted corporatist thugs now running the country can't have that now can they? In fact what we really need is a public option so that businesses dump their private insurance provider and force their employees to opt into the state insurance provider thereby in effect creating a de facto nationalized health care system. And thanks to the rescinding of the anti-trust legislation there will be no privatized insurance company left which is large enough to compete with the state.

    Will the state (the only true monopoly in this country) be forced to abide by the same anti-trust legislation as the private sector? Ya don't hold your ****ing breath.
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    Re: Senators to strip health insurers

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    You will agree with us, and if you don't we will use the full force of the government to punish you for it.

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    It's about time somebody put a foot up their right wing nazi asses.

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    Re: Senators to strip health insurers

    Would someone mind explaining to me in laymon's terms what antitrust is, and what an exemption from it would mean?

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