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    Re: Study: Obama foes aren't race-driven

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    It's offensive that there even *is* a study on this crap as though it had any credence in the first place.

    A study about what is important to swing voters and conservative base voters isn't offensive. This was not a study about the importance of race, but rather what is important to these two groups of voters. The race finding is only one of the findings of the study, and ironically, despite the study saying this issue isn't important and the press needs to get over it, this article only focuses on the race element.

    From one of the pages of the study:

    Instead of focusing on these intense ideological divisions, the press and elites continue to look for a racial element that drives these voters’ beliefs – but they need to get over it. Conducted on the heels of Joe Wilson’s incendiary comments at the president’s joint session address, we gave these groups of older, white Republican base voters in Georgia full opportunity to bring race into their discussion – but it did not ever become a central element, and indeed, was almost beside the point.

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    Re: Study: Obama foes aren't race-driven

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    A study about what is important to swing voters and conservative base voters isn't offensive. This was not a study about the importance of race, but rather what is important to these two groups of voters. The race finding is only one of the findings of the study, and ironically, despite the study saying this issue isn't important and the press needs to get over it, this article only focuses on the race element.

    From one of the pages of the study:
    How does Garbage Wilson calling the president a liar make his concerns racist? You guys keep bringing race into this, when it really is no more of a factor than people not liking George Bush because of his accent. IOW, there are really reasons to oppose either man.
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    You guys are weird.

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    Re: Study: Obama foes aren't race-driven

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    How does Garbage Wilson calling the president a liar make his concerns racist? You guys keep bringing race into this, when it really is no more of a factor than people not liking George Bush because of his accent. IOW, there are really reasons to oppose either man.

    They are saying the voters do not see Garbage's comments as having to do with racism.


    btw, neither did I. I didn't start calling him Garbage until after I found out other stuff about him.

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    Re: Study: Obama foes aren't race-driven

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Study: Obama foes aren't race-driven - Michael Falcone - POLITICO.com

    Not that this will stop the card from being slithered out from the bottom of the deck at every turn.

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    I dunno what's moer sad... having some talking heads simply claim the race card, or that so many Obama supporters have BOUGHT INTO this idea that it requires a STUDY to determine the truth.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Whether racism is or isn't, in all reality, a factor, how accurate could such a study really be?
    Granted... racists would tend to avoid labelling themselves racist, just as someone who cares not about race, would be offended by the very question.

    Most conscious racists won't admit they're racist in a survey.
    And many people are driven by subconscious racism.
    So you go ahead and jump over the survey results and state that it's because people are 'subconsciously racist'?!?!?!

    *takes deep breath and bites tongue*

    So, are the black people that oppose Obama... are they racist too, in your opinion??

    Does that mean that the white people that opposed Bush are also racist???

    These comments are of the callibre that I would raise the question on missing chromosomes if it weren't so apparent.

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    Re: Study: Obama foes aren't race-driven

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    I thought that was really interesting too ! I didn't post it when I read it tho, b/c when I mentioned this study on Thursday night (I'd read a preview of it on Thurs night) some conservatives in a tea party thread told me it was a POS study b/c it was put out by a Dem pollster
    Well, since you think that conservatives are always wrong, then we can come to the conclusion that you think the pollster is right and therefore, prives in your mind, that racism is not part of the opposition. Am I correct? or do you hold that racism is part of the opposition camp?

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    Re: Study: Obama foes aren't race-driven

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Study: Obama foes aren't race-driven - Michael Falcone - POLITICO.com

    Not that this will stop the card from being slithered out from the bottom of the deck at every turn.

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    This liberal study done in part by James Carville is just another example of the liberal bias so prevalent today. We should discount it immediately just as all liberal media claims are automatically wrong.
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    Re: Study: Obama foes aren't race-driven

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    Well, since you think that conservatives are always wrong, then we can come to the conclusion that you think the pollster is right and therefore, prives in your mind, that racism is not part of the opposition. Am I correct? or do you hold that racism is part of the opposition camp?

    I think no such thing about conservatives and the conclusion does not follow from the ridiculous assertion in any case.

    What a silly post.

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    Re: Study: Obama foes aren't race-driven

    I think obama's race has affected politics in a way that is not easily comprehended by anyone. I think theres an effect, except its nearly inexplicable.

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    Re: Study: Obama foes aren't race-driven

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    I think obama's race has affected politics in a way that is not easily comprehended by anyone. I think theres an effect, except its nearly inexplicable.
    Yes, there's an effect... no matter WHAT kind of opposition to Obama can be attributed to racism and summarily dismissed.

    THAT is the ONLY way in which Obama's race has affected politics, reducing thought to 'support' for Obama and 'racist' thought.

    My point about this being retarted stands.

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    Re: Study: Obama foes aren't race-driven

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Yes, there's an effect... no matter WHAT kind of opposition to Obama can be attributed to racism and summarily dismissed.

    THAT is the ONLY way in which Obama's race has affected politics, reducing thought to 'support' for Obama and 'racist' thought.

    My point about this being retarted stands.


    Birthers

    Osamacare?


    Maybe there are actual racists out there just ruining your name and since you tend to be homogenized they just confuse you all?

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