Obama constitutionally barred from accepting Nobel Peace Prize

jackalope said:

Is this a sock puppet? Such a funny post for a first post.

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Redress said:

First, it's an opinion piece and does not belong here. Second, the Nobel prize is not a King, Prince or foreign State, and third, congress could and probably would give their consent without any trouble.

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Redress said:

First, it's an opinion piece and does not belong here. Second, the Nobel prize is not a King, Prince or foreign State, and third, congress could and probably would give their consent without any trouble.

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links136 said:

the article says the president cannot accept any present .

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winston53660 said:

Damn what does the President do on Christmas day?

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Ethereal said:

Of course the Nobel isn't a king, prince, or a foreign state. What does that have to do with anything?

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links136 said:

eh, i've just noticed alot of backlash against Obama for winning the Nobel Peace Prize. I figured this would make at least someone happy. Supposedly that's impossible in modern society.

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links136 said:

People can, and undoubtedly will, argue for some time about whether President Obama deserves the Nobel Peace Prize. Meanwhile, though, there's a simpler and more immediate question: Does the Constitution allow him to accept the award?

Article I, Section 9, of the Constitution, the emolument clause, clearly stipulates: "And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State."

washingtonpost.com

happy?

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Redress said:

Read the quote from the constitution. I copied and pasted strait from there. Those are the groups he cannot accept prizes from.

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Redress said:

First, it's an opinion piece and does not belong here. Second, the Nobel prize is not a King, Prince or foreign State, and third, congress could and probably would give their consent without any trouble.

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e⋅mol⋅u⋅ment  /ɪˈmɒlyəmənt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [i-mol-yuh-muhnt] Show IPA
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–noun profit, salary, or fees from office or employment; compensation for services: Tips are an emolument in addition to wages.


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Origin:
1470–80; < L ēmolumentum advantage, benefit, equiv. to ēmol(ere) to grind out, produce by grinding (ē- e- + molere to grind; see mill 1 ) + -u-, var. before labials of -i- -i- + -mentum -ment


Synonyms:
earnings, pay, recompense, stipend, honorarium.

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–noun pres⋅ent 16. a thing presented as a gift; gift: Christmas presents.


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Origin:
1175–1225; (n.) ME < OF, orig. in phrase en present in presence (see present 1 ); (v.) ME presenten < OF presenter < ML praesentāre to give, show, present for approval, L: to exhibit (to the mind or senses), deriv. of praesēns present 1


Synonyms:
1. bestow, donate. See give. 2. proffer. 3. yield. 5. See introduce. 9. introduce. 11. enact. 16. benefaction, grant, tip, gratuity. Present, gift, donation, bonus refer to something freely given. Present and gift are both used of something given as an expression of affection, friendship, interest, or respect. Present is the less formal; gift is generally used of something conferred (esp. with ceremony) on an individual, a group, or an institution: a birthday present; a gift to a bride. Donation applies to an important gift, most often of money and usually of considerable size, though the term is often used to avoid the suggestion of charity in speaking of small gifts to or for the needy: a donation to an endowment fund, to the Red Cross. Bonus applies to something, again usually money, given in addition to what is due, esp. to employees who have worked for a long time or particularly well: a bonus at the end of the year.

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Ethereal said:

I think what you meant to say was that the Nobel committee isn't a King, Prince, or Foreign State.

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Redress said:

Which is stupid. Who cares who some committee chooses to give a prize to, and how exactly is it Obama's fault. I generally support Obama, thought the prize going to him was stupid, and that was the end of it to my mind. It's a handful of people who just want to make a big deal over nothing.

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links136 said:

well it apears Obama has the same approval rating as when he was elected

The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan

which to me being that he was pretty well liked back then, all this criticism is a few people trying to speak as if they're the majority.

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winston53660 said:

Damn what does the President do on Christmas day?

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United States Constitution
Article One, Section 9

No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.
Constitution of the United States of America - Wikisource

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Nobel Peace Prize
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Nomination and selection

The Norwegian Parliament appoints the Norwegian Nobel Committee, which selects the laureate for the Peace Prize.
Nobel Peace Prize - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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U.S. Code Title 5,
Part III, Subpart F, Chapter 73, Subchapter IV,

§ 7342. Receipt and disposition of foreign gifts and decorations

(a) For the purpose of this section—

(2) “foreign government” means—

(A) any unit of foreign governmental authority, including any foreign national, State, local, and municipal government;
(B) any international or multinational organization whose membership is composed of any unit of foreign government described in subparagraph (A); and
(C) any agent or representative of any such unit or such organization, while acting as such;​

(3) “gift” means a tangible or intangible present (other than a decoration) tendered by, or received from, a foreign government;
(4) “decoration” means an order, device, medal, badge, insignia, emblem, or award tendered by, or received from, a foreign government;​

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(b) An employee may not—

(1) request or otherwise encourage the tender of a gift or decoration; or
(2) accept a gift or decoration, other than in accordance with the provisions of subsections (c) and (d).​

(c)

(1) The Congress consents to—

(A) the accepting and retaining by an employee of a gift of minimal value tendered and received as a souvenir or mark of courtesy; and
(B) the accepting by an employee of a gift of more than minimal value when such gift is in the nature of an educational scholarship or medical treatment or when it appears that to refuse the gift would likely cause offense or embarrassment or otherwise adversely affect the foreign relations of the United States, except that—

(i) a tangible gift of more than minimal value is deemed to have been accepted on behalf of the United States and, upon acceptance, shall become the property of the United States; and
(ii) an employee may accept gifts of travel or expenses for travel taking place entirely outside the United States (such as transportation, food, and lodging) of more than minimal value if such acceptance is appropriate, consistent with the interests of the United States, and permitted by the employing agency and any regulations which may be prescribed by the employing agency.​

(d) The Congress consents to the accepting, retaining, and wearing by an employee of a decoration tendered in recognition of active field service in time of combat operations or awarded for other outstanding or unusually meritorious performance, subject to the approval of the employing agency of such employee. Without this approval, the decoration is deemed to have been accepted on behalf of the United States, shall become the property of the United States, and shall be deposited by the employee, within sixty days of acceptance, with the employing agency for official use, for forwarding to the Administrator of General Services for disposal in accordance with subsection (e)(1), or for disposal in accordance with subsection (e)(2).
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(i) The President shall direct all Chiefs of a United States Diplomatic Mission to inform their host governments that it is a general policy of the United States Government to prohibit United States Government employees from receiving gifts or decorations of more than minimal value.​

US CODE: Title 5,7342. Receipt and disposition of foreign gifts and decorations

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WI Crippler said:

He is sad, because the meaning of his birthday has been replaced by capitalism. :2razz:

+10 for messiah joke

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