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    ACLU Says Extracting DNA From Suspects Unconstitutional

    A lawsuit (.pdf), filed by the American Civil Liberties Union on behalf of two Californians who were arrested and released, seeks to overturn a voter-approved law that became effective this year. Proposition 69 requires detainees to provide a saliva or sometimes a blood sample upon felony arrest. The sample is stored in state and FBI databases, even if the arrested person is never charged or convicted of a crime.
    Yea, I know the ACLU once again is trying to coddle crooks and the police are just completely honest and we shouldnt question them.

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    Re: ACLU Says Extracting DNA From Suspects Unconstitutional

    I actually agree with the ACLU here.

    Not in the act of taking it, I actually don't mind them doing that. I have issue with it being stored and not destroyed regardless of a conviction

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    Re: ACLU Says Extracting DNA From Suspects Unconstitutional

    Kinda iffy on this one. DNA is like a fingerprint. We still keep fingerprints of everyone arrested whether convicted or not.
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    Re: ACLU Says Extracting DNA From Suspects Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Keorythe View Post
    Kinda iffy on this one. DNA is like a fingerprint. We still keep fingerprints of everyone arrested whether convicted or not.
    We shouldn't be doing that either.
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    Re: ACLU Says Extracting DNA From Suspects Unconstitutional

    The ACLU is irrelevant and will remain so until they respond to my question regarding language including their position on the phrase "typical white people"!

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    Re: ACLU Says Extracting DNA From Suspects Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    We shouldn't be doing that either.
    Yaeh, it makes it too easy to track down repeat offenders. Makes body identification too easy, too. Need to stop that immediately.
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    Re: ACLU Says Extracting DNA From Suspects Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yaeh, it makes it too easy to track down repeat offenders.
    "Repeat offenders" implies that the person has already been convicted of something. We're talking about taking DNA or fingerprints from a SUSPECT (read: a person who has not been convicted of any crime).

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    Makes body identification too easy, too. Need to stop that immediately.
    So you would be in favor of requiring everyone in America to submit their DNA samples and fingerprints to the government?
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    Re: ACLU Says Extracting DNA From Suspects Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    "Repeat offenders" implies that the person has already been convicted of something. We're talking about taking DNA or fingerprints from a SUSPECT (read: a person who has not been convicted of any crime).
    No matter. I've been finger printed probably 10 times in my life for background checks. I don't have a problem with my prints being filed somewhere.



    So you would be in favor of requiring everyone in America to submit their DNA samples and fingerprints to the government?

    Sure, I've done it numerous times. What harm will it do? Make it easier to catch you if you committ a crime? Well, don't committ a crime.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
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    Re: ACLU Says Extracting DNA From Suspects Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No matter. I've been finger printed probably 10 times in my life for background checks. I don't have a problem with my prints being filed somewhere.






    Sure, I've done it numerous times. What harm will it do? Make it easier to catch you if you committ a crime? Well, don't committ a crime.
    OK. Would you also like for the government to have a database detailing everyone's bank account information? It'll make it much easier to catch white collar criminals that way. Should the government have a database of everyone's library and video store rentals, and their complete web history and keystroke logs? This could prevent lots of crime.

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    Re: ACLU Says Extracting DNA From Suspects Unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    OK. Would you also like for the government to have a database detailing everyone's bank account information? It'll make it much easier to catch white collar criminals that way. Should the government have a database of everyone's library and video store rentals, and their complete web history and keystroke logs? This could prevent lots of crime.

    If you aren't committing crimes, then you have nothing to worry about. Right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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