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Dems: GOP rooting against America

Hopining Obama fails does not equal America failing.


Putting the olympics over the troops in A-stan?


That's "hoping America fails"


Obama is not "America"

Here's where I have to disagree with you.

Which President was it who took his eye off of the War on Terror and focused on the War in Iraq? Granted, I can't say with a high degree of certainty whether or not any international trip GWB took wasn't directly related to national security or foreign policy matters, but I really can't see how folks on the right can't see lobbying for the 2016 Summer Olympics wasn't in this country's best interest economically. Think of the tourist dollars that could have come from it? Beijing reportedly was estimated to make billions off the 2006 Olympics. How could anyone in their right mind not see the economic impact acquiring the Olypics wouldn't make? It's simply foolhearty to think otherwise.

More links to how Beijing's economy swelled as a result of getting the 2006 Olympics:

Estimated record revenue over the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics

Hotel reservations estimated to draw billions to Beijing for 2006 Olympics
 
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Like US socialists all are somewhat different, some based on dictatorships, and some on oligarchies, one even considered themselves a democracy (although IT is a Republic). Socialist is not a specific country or even a specific set of items you have to check off, nor is communism.. Marxism is however a little better definable. There is NO definition for democrat-socialist as it was SCRUBBED by Wiki-pedia just over the last couple weeks.... but I know it when I smell it!

While I agree that there is no checklist, socialism and communism still have restrictive definitions. Socialism involves giving control of the means of production to the workers along with replacing capitalism while communism is when a classless society is reached and there is no longer any need for the state. It seems clear from a historical perspective that the coordinatorists who killed millions did not have any real intention of reaching socialism or communism. Furthermore, how does Pres. Obama fit into these definitions?
 
Why would the Republicans cheer that an American city didn't get the Olympics in the first place?
 
I wasn't for or against it either way actually, I simply laughed when the messiah failed miserably....


I stopped laughing though rather quickly when the news we lost more in a-stan came along, and Obama was still fiddling.

Rev:

Were you as outraged at how many we lost in Iraq when GWB attended the Beijing Olympics?

How many posts did you post about that?

Link?
 
Unfortunately, you appear to have a little to no knowledge about communism nor socialism.
Really, you should use the search feature for this. It has been discussed numerous times. Let's go back to the topic now.
 
Dems: GOP rooting against America - Yahoo! News

But the joyous reaction in some GOP quarters to the International Olympics Committee's snub of Chicago — coupled with the party’s rapid-fire reaction to bad economic data – has some Democrats turning the tables and asking if Republicans are the ones cheering against America now.

I've been saying this for months. Its obviously that many (not all) in the GOP are rooting for America's failure rather than give any credit to Obama.

Limbaugh started it with his wishes that Obama and America fail.
The Limbaughts on this site grabbed hold of his hopes and have been trumping it here ad nauseum.

As much as I disagreed with GWB and his policies, I never hoped that he would fail, because if he fails, America fails.
I would rather eat crow and have America succeed than root against my country so that I can spend a minute or two wallowing around in my satisfaction.

This is a sad commentary on what America has become.

I am always amused by the desperate efforts of Liberals to suggest that being against Obama's socialist takeover of America is somehow "rooting for America's failure."

Meanwhile, suffering under the weight of the Obama Administrations and Democrat Congressional failures, unemployment continues to rise, foreclosures are on the rise, GDP continues to wallow in negative territory, the deficit climbs into the stratosphere, the national debt becomes unmanageable and the Liberals want to pretend that this has been GOOD for America.

The TRUTH is that being against Obama and the morons that infest Congress is an effort to root FOR America, not against her. I am hardly surprised to see Liberals get it all wrong; they seldom if ever get it right.

We had to listen for 8 years how bad things were under Bush, now we can see what "bad" REALLY means as we watch these morons desperately try to claim that this mess is all the fault of them Republicans in an effort to hide the lies and distortions they used to get elected in the first place.

Remember the promises? They told America that they would be more fiscally responsible, pay as they go, raise taxes to balance the budget and how they promised Americans that the “porkulus”, excuse me, stimulus package sinking us into a $1.6 trillion deficit would keep unemployment below 8% and create 5,000,000 high paying jobs.

Yes, this is ALL about Republicans and George Bush. :roll:

One can only wonder how many more months of this asinine criminally irresponsible program we will be asked to wait until the rest of us comprehend what an epoch failure this Administration represents. Obama is going to make the Carter years look like a cake walk. :doh
 
I am assuming you think the USSR, China, North Korea, etc. were socialist or communist?

I have to laugh at the efforts to re-define what Socialist or Communist means or the efforts to suggest that the "pure" form has never been attempted.

Unfortunately for the Communist apologizers, there is no such thing as a "pure" form of political ideologies because you cannot ignore the HUMAN factor when it comes to such centralized systems which are why they fail so miserably.

I have to laugh at the attempts of Socialists to continue to re-invent Socialism in an effort to suggest that it is a better form of political/economic ideology which still has not been tried in its "pure" form.

Fortunately most of us live in the REAL world and have a collective memory of the epoch failure of such "feel good" social systems and can watch them in their current forms throughout the world fail.

What amazes me is how anyone with an education and modicum of intelligence about human behavior can continue to argue for such systems or even suggest that they can work. :doh
 
No one is saying that Obama's plan is the ONLY way for America to succeed. But if you are hoping for bad things to happen to America so that you can rail against Obama....then you are hoping for America to fail.

Liberals hoped and even claimed that Bush was failing for almost 8 years; they even went as far as suggesting that Bush stole the 2000 elections.

Only someone wallowing in wishful denial can claim otherwise and for Liberals like you to now come out and wring your hands about those who hope Obama's political career is shortened by the 2010 and 2012 elections is most amusing.

We had headline after headline about how we had lost Iraq, failed in Iraq and how the unemployment rate REALLY was much higher than the 4.5% reported and how we were in a recession while GDP was at 3.5%.

The only thing more amusing is watching these same Liberal media organizations and Liberals like you defend the epoch failure that represents Democrats in power now.

:rofl
 
Why would the Republicans cheer that an American city didn't get the Olympics in the first place?

They didn't; this is another fabrication from Liberals who are desperately trying to defend the epoch failure that represents the Obama Administration.

What they did do was laugh at Obama's arrogance in presenting his case; it was all about Michelle and Obama rather than about Chicago and America. But then why would they want to attach themselves to a country they hate and continuously ask other nations to forgive and forget for all its past sins?

:doh
 
Rev:

Were you as outraged at how many we lost in Iraq when GWB attended the Beijing Olympics?

How many posts did you post about that?

Link?

Hold on now, if we are going to get this deep in selective outrage and hypocrisy, I am going to need hip waders. :rofl
 
Liberals hoped and even claimed that Bush was failing for almost 8 years; they even went as far as suggesting that Bush stole the 2000 elections.

Only someone wallowing in wishful denial can claim otherwise and for Liberals like you to now come out and wring your hands about those who hope Obama's political career is shortened by the 2010 and 2012 elections is most amusing.

We had headline after headline about how we had lost Iraq, failed in Iraq and how the unemployment rate REALLY was much higher than the 4.5% reported and how we were in a recession while GDP was at 3.5%.

The only thing more amusing is watching these same Liberal media organizations and Liberals like you defend the epoch failure that represents Democrats in power now.

:rofl

Sorry....but in the 8 years that Bush was President, not once did I hope or wish that he would fail.

Oh....and BTW....Bush didn't "steal" the election. He did however lose the election and was put into power by an activist Supreme Court who's motives in their decision was crystal clear even where their logic was not.
 
They didn't; this is another fabrication from Liberals who are desperately trying to defend the epoch failure that represents the Obama Administration.

What they did do was laugh at Obama's arrogance in presenting his case; it was all about Michelle and Obama rather than about Chicago and America. But then why would they want to attach themselves to a country they hate and continuously ask other nations to forgive and forget for all its past sins?

:doh

Oh really....How about the fact that the "value voters summit" erupted in applause when they heard that Chicago was eliminated. Conviently overlook much?
 
Dems: GOP rooting against America - Yahoo! News

But the joyous reaction in some GOP quarters to the International Olympics Committee's snub of Chicago — coupled with the party’s rapid-fire reaction to bad economic data – has some Democrats turning the tables and asking if Republicans are the ones cheering against America now.

I've been saying this for months. Its obviously that many (not all) in the GOP are rooting for America's failure rather than give any credit to Obama.

Limbaugh started it with his wishes that Obama and America fail.
The Limbaughts on this site grabbed hold of his hopes and have been trumping it here ad nauseum.

As much as I disagreed with GWB and his policies, I never hoped that he would fail, because if he fails, America fails.
I would rather eat crow and have America succeed than root against my country so that I can spend a minute or two wallowing around in my satisfaction.

This is a sad commentary on what America has become.

Yea, I bet you never tried to undermine the war in Iraq...not even once.
 
Whhaaaa....the mean ol Dems wanted Bush to fail.
Sorry folks Georgie did that all on his own.

I can already see that the Republican want too put a saddle on that line and ride around on it for as long as they can to beat down critisizm.

Kinda like they rode around on Clinton's penis for years. Clinging to it like some kind of life preserver.
 
I've been saying this for months. Its obviously that many (not all) in the GOP are rooting for America's failure rather than give any credit to Obama.

Limbaugh started it with his wishes that Obama and America fail.

Wow, congratulations Disney. You made it through three whole lines before stating some idiotic bull**** as if its fact. Great job! You prove once again to be really desiring for honest discussion :roll:

Yeah, I think its idiotic to cheer that Chicago didn't get it. At the same time, I don't think thats rooting "against" America. People felt the President shouldn't be wasting his time going over there and by it having absolutely zero effect maybe in the future he won't make such an idiotic, in their mind, move again where as if it succeeded he'd just be more encouraged to do it again.

Its kond of like in sports. Say your team drafts a QB and you really really disagree with it. And that QB starts stinking it up, but bumbles his way into a few good plays, but over all is just horrible. It gets to a point where you've realized this team made a mistake, we need to get rid of this QB, that you honestly don't want to see him have a few good games at the end of the year because it may encourage the team to give him a big fat contract, when in reality you know the team needs to move on and get rid of him and get a new one.

Some people don't like that Obama's constantly doing these seemingly "fluff" things for publicity, from completely fluff like Letterman and ESPN, to smaller "fluff" like the Olympics. As such, when he actually does those things these people hope they don't work out well because it gives him less ways he and his advisors can delude himself into REPEATING the action.

It wasn't "WOOO! ****'em, we don't want the Olympics, WOOO SCREW OBAMA, **** America, we shouldn't have Olympics". It was much more likely "Excellent, now maybe he'll see he's not some god like figure that would just show up and make it in the bag and thus shouldn't have gone out of his way to go over there in the first place and won't do such things in the future".

And really? You didn't want Bush to Fail Disney?

So you were for Bush's bailout plan? You hoped Bush didn't fail at getting a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage? You hoped that Bush didn't fail at getting the Patriot Act passed and portions of it not being scaled back? You hoped Bush didn't fail at keeping GITMO open or claiming that what he was doing wasn't Torture? You never hoped he failed at keeping our troops in Iraq for as long as he felt needed? You didn't expect that the tax cuts were going to help all classes of people and be a benefit to the economy and revenues, thus wanting them to remain in place? You never wanted him to FAIL at any of those things? You wanted gay marriage to be constitutionally banned? For "torture" to happen? For Gitmo to stay open and for us to be in Iraq as long as Bush wanted? You wanted all that?

Because that's the context of what people are saying that they want Obama to is that.

They want his proposal for Health Care to fail, becuase they think its bad, just like those on the left wanted the Patriot Act portiosn to be stripped away, because they thought it was bad.

They want his cap and trade policies to not pass in the same way people didn't want the constitional amendment about gay marriage to not pass.

They don't so much want the bad stimulous plan to "fail" as they fully expect it to fail, and as such would rather it show signs of failing sooner or later to justify it to the people to fix it sooner rather than later...just like so many democrats during the run up to Bush's tax cuts were saying that it won't work, fought against extending it when it was in place, and talked during campaigns of needing to raise taxes because we couldn't "sustain it".

You're bull**** post is dripping with hyper partisan bull****, hypocracy, and utter worthless content from 3 lines in and onward.
 
I am always amused by the desperate efforts of Liberals to suggest that being against Obama's socialist takeover of America is somehow "rooting for America's failure."

Meanwhile, suffering under the weight of the Obama Administrations and Democrat Congressional failures, unemployment continues to rise, foreclosures are on the rise, GDP continues to wallow in negative territory, the deficit climbs into the stratosphere, the national debt becomes unmanageable and the Liberals want to pretend that this has been GOOD for America.

The TRUTH is that being against Obama and the morons that infest Congress is an effort to root FOR America, not against her. I am hardly surprised to see Liberals get it all wrong; they seldom if ever get it right.

We had to listen for 8 years how bad things were under Bush, now we can see what "bad" REALLY means as we watch these morons desperately try to claim that this mess is all the fault of them Republicans in an effort to hide the lies and distortions they used to get elected in the first place.

Remember the promises? They told America that they would be more fiscally responsible, pay as they go, raise taxes to balance the budget and how they promised Americans that the “porkulus”, excuse me, stimulus package sinking us into a $1.6 trillion deficit would keep unemployment below 8% and create 5,000,000 high paying jobs.

Yes, this is ALL about Republicans and George Bush. :roll:

One can only wonder how many more months of this asinine criminally irresponsible program we will be asked to wait until the rest of us comprehend what an epoch failure this Administration represents. Obama is going to make the Carter years look like a cake walk. :doh
yes, it is about republican policies and george bush. we are only 10 months into the obama administration. the bush admin WAS an epic failure, and it's tough to clean up the mess.


could you please enlighten me? what policies and or laws have been put in place that you consider "socialist"? thanks.
 
Sorry....but in the 8 years that Bush was President, not once did I hope or wish that he would fail.

How is this thread about you? Your fellow Democrat Liberals are who I am speaking of.

Your efforts to illustrate your selective outrage notwithstanding, are you attempting to deny what was done to Bush or the fact that this is not about being against America but rather being against the asinine policies this Administration and current Democrat majority have promoted which so far, have done NOTHING to make this economy better, create jobs or raise the standards of living?

Oh....and BTW....Bush didn't "steal" the election. He did however lose the election and was put into power by an activist Supreme Court who's motives in their decision was crystal clear even where their logic was not.

That would be a lie. The truth is we had a political party in this country that acted like a spoiled little brat and was willing to place the nation a great risk and split it in along a vast permanent partisan divide by trying to disenfranchise the voters of Florida by divining votes from hanging chads.

All the Supreme Court did was end the unprecedented divisive hyper partisan stupidity the Democrats were engaged in.

I suggest that you read this news paper article and subsequent final count before making such "hyper partisan" claims:

Newspapers' recount shows Bush prevailed
USATODAY.com - Newspapers' recount shows Bush prevailed

Study: Gore Would Not Have Picked Up Many Votes
Election 2000 | Study: Gore Would Not Have Picked Up Many Votes

And Still The Winner ...
Bush Won By 537 Votes In Florida Out Of 6 Million Cast

And Still The Winner ... - CBS News
 
Are we basically bringing back the "if you're not with us, you're against us" mantra. Didn't we bitch at Bush when he brought that out. You can hope Obama fails and not be hoping for America to fail. Patriotism is not defined through support of the President.
 
yes, it is about republican policies and george bush. we are only 10 months into the obama administration. the bush admin WAS an epic failure, and it's tough to clean up the mess.
Just curious:
How far into The Obama's tenure will you contninue to blame Bush?
At what point do you lay the blame at The Obama's feet?
 
yes, it is about republican policies and george bush. we are only 10 months into the obama administration.

....and have lost over 2.5 million jobs, watched the unemployment rate double, watched the deficit more than triple, watched GDP continue to decline and the national debt climb by $2 trillion.

I am not sure what more there is to see except more of the same.

the bush admin WAS an epic failure, and it's tough to clean up the mess.

This statement is more of a "because I say so" rather than anything containing credible facts. It is more of the same hyperbolic blather Liberals had been spewing for the last 6 years of the Bush Administration while at the current time, defending policies that resemble Bush on steroids.

I am constantly amused at the level of denial it must take to support Democrats these days.

If you want to see an epoch mess, hang on to your britches cause you aint seen nothing yet. With unemployment continuing to soar, deficits continuing to climb and GDP growth continuing to decline; what you will be witnessing in the next year or so will make the Carter years look like a cake walk.

If you think things are bad now, wait until the Democrats have to be honest about the vast amount of tax increases they will have to pass to pay for all their wasteful deficit spending.

could you please enlighten me? what policies and or laws have been put in place that you consider "socialist"? thanks.

Government loans to major US corporations giving them a say in how much to pay their CEOs, who they hire and what products they will produce; Government efforts to manage the US healthcare system in direct competition with the free market; the Governments vast expansion and dictating who will be the winners (green energy companies) and losers (oil and insurance companies) of our economy since Obama and the Democrats took charge; and last, but never least, the efforts of this Administration to over-regulate American industry dictating to them what are acceptable profits according to their standards.

Of course Liberals don't see this as a vast expansion of Government over the private markets because in your mind this is what needs to happen; that is, until the OTHER party gets into power again, then all bets are once again off.

You see, the only reason you support a vast expansion of Government currently is because your guys are in office; when it was the Bush Administration, you demagogued it claiming Bush was no different than Democrats.

Yet Bush's expansion was slightly different in that it was mostly dealing with national security which is what the Constitution states is the Federal Governments primary role; whereas you and your fellow Liberals still think that role is expanding welfare to all Americans.

Now we can pretend that vastly expanding the role of Government into every facet of our lives is not a Socialist endeavor, but that would require the willing suspension of disbelief.
 
Give a single example if you believe that you can.

You want an example of your selective outrage? Here you go; how many threads did you start when Bush was in office suggesting that it was wrong for Liberals to criticize his efforts in the ME and with the economy and how that was rooting against America?

My guess would be ZERO. Carry on. :doh
 

That must mean Dems were rooting for America to fail while Bush was in office -

poll-should-bush-succeed.jpg


Most Democrats Wanted Bush to Fail in 2006 Poll, Will Media Care? | NewsBusters.org
 
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