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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Ineffective as well. Fences will not stop people from entering illegally. This is one I find particularly nutty, as well as the Sanctity of Life Act.
    Stop hating the constitution for thinking the religious beliefs of certain people have nothing to do with how you live your life!
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    The one area where I'll bash Ron Paul is that he has always played up to the conspiracy theorist crowd.

    As a well known political figure, he needs to learn discretion.

    When he hangs around nuts like Bachman or goes on Alex Jones' radio show, he's giving them credibility.
    That is a load of BS...

    The Alex Jones Show was the ONLY place that let the man explain his points without calling him nuts... don't make me look for the videos where every means possible was used to discredit Paul.

    If there had been a fair debate on the issues Ron Paul would have got like 80% of the vote...

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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Wanting to build a fence across 2000 miles of mostly uninhabited, unpatrolable, unwelcoming territory seems pretty nutty to me.
    What kind of fence is it?

    Is the fence the only thing in the bill?

    Are you sure it's 2000 miles?

    Did you know that Barack Obama voted in favor it, too?

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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    If there had been a fair debate on the issues Ron Paul would have got like 80% of the vote...
    ....What is 'unfair' about this debate?

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hfa7vT02lA"]YouTube - Congressman Ron Paul at the First GOP Presidential Debate[/ame]
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    That is a load of BS...

    The Alex Jones Show was the ONLY place that let the man explain his points without calling him nuts... don't make me look for the videos where every means possible was used to discredit Paul.

    If there had been a fair debate on the issues Ron Paul would have got like 80% of the vote...
    Ron Paul had an ample opportunity to present himself to the public and they simply didn't like him. No amount of airtime or exposure is going to change Ron Paul's awkward appearance and presentation, which are two of the most important qualities to the American voter (Re: Obama); sad but true.

    And I don't expect his association with 9/11-truthers-types (Re: You) is going to help him either.

    Ron Paul does not think the government had anything to do with 9/11, so you should really stop treating him like your group's special guy in Washington. If Ron Paul wasn't so nice he'd tell the Truthers to piss off...

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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever


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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    What kind of fence is it?
    This kind :

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006]Secure Fence Act of 2006 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    The Secure Fence Act of 2006 (Pub.L. 109-367) was enacted October 26, 2006[1] in the United States. The act allows for over 700 miles (1,100 km) of double-reinforced fence to be built along the border with Mexico, across cities and deserts alike, in the U.S. states of California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas in areas that have experienced illegal drug trafficking and illegal immigration. It authorizes the installation of more lighting, vehicle barriers, and border checkpoints, while putting in place more advanced equipment like sensors, cameras, satellites and unmanned aerial vehicles in an attempt to watch and control illegal immigration into the United States.

    Ron Paul on the Issues

    YES on building a fence along the Mexican border
    Rated 83% by USBC, indicating a sealed-border stance
    Voted NO on military border patrols to battle drugs & terrorism.
    Is the fence the only thing in the bill?
    Considering the fence is called 'the Secure Fence Act' I doubt they also want to put in snow bunnies.

    Are you sure it's 2000 miles?
    1,969. You got me. I was off by 31. Makes him 31 miles less insanely crazy or retarded if it makes you feel better.

    Did you know that Barack Obama voted in favor it, too?
    Pssst. Barack Obama isn't also calling for an investigation on a silly witch hunt of the Fed, claiming some higher knowledge of the 'original intent' of the constitution, calling for going back to the Gold standardin 2009, pulling out of the UN, NATO, NAFTA etc, using his religious beliefs to dictate whether a woman should get an abortion, doing away with the income tax in his first week as President, doing away with the department of education etc. Your strawman seems to think that people claim ONE issue and ONE political opinion make Ron Paul an insane old man living in the 21st century. A group of these does. But if you'd like to believe that wanting to build a fence is all that makes Ron Paul a modern day political luddite. By all means.

    Your blind devotion and inconsistency when it comes to this guy is almost funny. Specially considering your ardent defence of drugs. The same person who thinks the government has no business fighting drug trafficking(his continued attacks on funding for the DEA) is the same guy who won't vote for funding of needle exchange & rehabilitation programs. And then you like a good little Pauldier come on the forum and scream about the wonders claimed by studied regarding what legalizing drugs has done for a 3rd world European irrelevancy like Portugal when the very reason they claim they've had these success is because of government funded needle exchange and rehabilitation programs.

    Then come other issues like his typical Christian refusal to put the 'souls' of goo in a petri dish before that of living human beings simply because he has some silly Dr. Seuss fueled belief that a bunch of cells glued together in a test tube consist of life.

    Aren't you a marine? I mean can you imagine if Ron Paul was a Democrat voting against the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan AND also voting against funding for the troops? The calls of treason and hating the troops would never stop. But we're supposed to let you and a bunch of other internet teenagers tell us that he's some sort of revelation when in reality he's just some old man who's got a grandious sense of self and like a political Jim Jones gets off on telling people he knows what the founders really meant? Like, he was, you know there? Sorry my son. This game of 'one issue' makes Ron Paul crazy you seem to want to play is not one most people will go along with.
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This kind :

    Secure Fence Act of 2006 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




    Ron Paul on the Issues





    Considering the fence is called 'the Secure Fence Act' I doubt they also want to put in snow bunnies.



    1,969. You got me. I was off by 31. Makes him 31 miles less insanely crazy or retarded if it makes you feel better.



    Pssst. Barack Obama isn't also calling for an investigation on a silly witch hunt of the Fed, claiming some higher knowledge of the 'original intent' of the constitution, calling for going back to the Gold standardin 2009, pulling out of the UN, NATO, NAFTA etc, using his religious beliefs to dictate whether a woman should get an abortion, doing away with the income tax in his first week as President, doing away with the department of education etc. Your strawman seems to think that people claim ONE issue and ONE political opinion make Ron Paul an insane old man living in the 21st century. A group of these does. But if you'd like to believe that wanting to build a fence is all that makes Ron Paul a modern day political luddite. By all means.

    Your blind devotion and inconsistency when it comes to this guy is almost funny. Specially considering your ardent defence of drugs. The same person who thinks the government has no business fighting drug trafficking(his continued attacks on funding for the DEA) is the same guy who won't vote for funding of needle exchange & rehabilitation programs. And then you like a good little Pauldier come on the forum and scream about the wonders claimed by studied regarding what legalizing drugs has done for a 3rd world European irrelevancy like Portugal when the very reason they claim they've had these success is because of government funded needle exchange and rehabilitation programs.

    Then come other issues like his typical Christian refusal to put the 'souls' of goo in a petri dish before that of living human beings simply because he has some silly Dr. Seuss fueled belief that a bunch of cells glued together in a test tube consist of life.

    Aren't you a marine? I mean can you imagine if Ron Paul was a Democrat voting against the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan AND also voting against funding for the troops? The calls of treason and hating the troops would never stop. But we're supposed to let you and a bunch of other internet teenagers tell us that he's some sort of revelation when in reality he's just some old man who's got a grandious sense of self and like a political Jim Jones gets off on telling people he knows what the founders really meant? Like, he was, you know there? Sorry my son. This game of 'one issue' makes Ron Paul crazy you seem to want to play is not one most people will go along with.
    The joys of being a liberal. If you agree with Obama, you have "drank the koolaid" and "worship your messiah", but speak poorly of ole Ron Paul, and you are just unreasonable and hate the constitution. No one ever gives us credit for actually arriving at our positions in a reasoned manner.
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The joys of being a liberal. If you agree with Obama, you have "drank the koolaid" and "worship your messiah", but speak poorly of ole Ron Paul, and you are just unreasonable and hate the constitution. No one ever gives us credit for actually arriving at our positions in a reasoned manner.
    If you scream that you know what people who lived 300+ years meant when they wrote some of the vaguest words known to man.

    You're not crazy.

    If you think being President will allow you to get rid of the income tax within your first week like some sort of magical power.

    You're not crazy.

    If you think pulling out of every major international defense, trade, communications agreement we have is a good thing in the 21st century.

    You're not crazy.

    If you think that goo in a dish has a higher priority than people you can actually see.

    You're not crazy.

    If you voted against the war AND funding for the troops.

    You're not a traitor or hate the troops.

    But it's all about some f'n 1969 mile fence.

    People only think Ron Paul is crazy because he wants to build a fence among mostly unpatrolable territory.

    Because of all the other silly **** he thinks he'd do if he were President isn't enough like being President is some sort of magical power. I mean Obama has a majority in Congress and he's having trouble getting a health bill passed. But had Ron Paul or somebody more moderate in the presentation would have won and EVERYTHING would have been different. They would have done away with the Income Tax in a week. They would have gotten Chuck Norris to scare the fence into building itself. They would have overturned 30+ years of Roe V. Wade. They would have kicked the UN out of NY. They would have fixed America. Because they would have known exatcly what the founders ment.

    Obviously the office of President is some magical possition you get where you can do whatever you want. It doesn't matter what Congress & SCOTUS have to say on it. I mean can you imagine how great America would be if Ron Paul were President? And then Libertarians and Conservatives have the gul to call Obama 'The Messiah'.
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    And then Libertarians and Conservatives have the gul to call Obama 'The Messiah'.

    Unlike some of the conservatives here, I never called Obama the Messiah. I call him an idiot like every other clown in Washington
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