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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Very nice, throwing out a red herring. We're discussing Ron Paul supporters, do you really have no other argument?
    Simply telling you to cut your own grass before complaining about mine.

    As for these unnamed Ron Paul supporters, I really don't give a **** what they do. I don't answer to them, nor do they answer to me. I'm not sure why you care, especially since there's more than enough "wingnut" Democrats to keep you busy (assuming you had the desire to look, of course), other than that it gives you a chance to make an intellectually lazy guilt-by-association argument.

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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Simply telling you to cut your own grass before complaining about mine.

    As for these unnamed Ron Paul supporters, I really don't give a **** what they do. I don't answer to them, nor do they answer to me. I'm not sure why you care, especially since there's more than enough "wingnut" Democrats to keep you busy (assuming you had the desire to look, of course), other than that it gives you a chance to make an intellectually lazy guilt-by-association argument.
    I'm just explaining why it seems to me that Ron Paul supporters get such a bad rap.
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    What specific policy-based arguments do you have in favor of Ron Paul's "wing-nut" status? I'm all ears.
    Using the source linked above(since I got it still open):

    Voted against Extending Federal Emergency Unemployment Benefits.

    Voted against funding for both Iraq and Afghanistan

    Voted against needle exchange programs

    Voted against improvements to student loan programs

    Voted for impeachment of Clinton

    voted against a bill to authorize $1.01 billion for the 2009 fiscal year to rebuild structurally deficient bridges on the National Highway System and to require states to devise plans for the replacement of such bridges.

    Voted against GI Bill expansion

    Voted against Establishment of the Office of Congressional Ethics

    Voted for the Secure Fence act

    Voted against the United States-India Agreement for Cooperation on Peaceful Uses of Nuclear Energy.

    Voted for An amendment to prohibit any funds to be used by the FDA for the testing, development, or approval (including approval of production, manufacturing, or distribution) of any drug for the chemical inducement of abortion

    Voted against stem cell research

    voted yes to to adopt an amendment that would ban federal funding in the District of Columbia for couples who want to adopt a child but are not related by blood or marriage.

    Voted yes to adopt an amendment that gives states the option to display the Ten Commandments in public buildings or on public property.

    Voted against VA and HUD funding

    Sponsored the 2005 version of Sanctity of Life Act

    I can go on into his comments and positions if you really want.
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    None of that seems to me to be "wingnut". It appears more to me that you've decided to label dissent with "wingnut". You disagree with Paul, and thus you've labeled him a "wingnut". But nothing you posted is anything I would say qualifies as "wingnut".
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    None of that seems to me to be "wingnut". It appears more to me that you've decided to label dissent with "wingnut". You disagree with Paul, and thus you've labeled him a "wingnut". But nothing you posted is anything I would say qualifies as "wingnut".
    We define wingnut differently. Of course you as a Libertarian is not going to see alot of that as nutty. Just voting against GI bill expansion and VA funding are things I consider extreme far out wingnutery.
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    We define wingnut differently. Of course you as a Libertarian is not going to see alot of that as nutty. Just voting against GI bill expansion and VA funding are things I consider extreme far out wingnutery.
    I don't know how. And I think it incredibly unfair to throw out labels that don't apply. Those are political opinions by which you're going to say someone is a "wingnut" and by extension all those whom support the platform. You're free to say as you like of course, but I think there is definitely cause to dismiss your opinion on this case based on personal bias.
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't know how. And I think it incredibly unfair to throw out labels that don't apply. Those are political opinions by which you're going to say someone is a "wingnut" and by extension all those whom support the platform. You're free to say as you like of course, but I think there is definitely cause to dismiss your opinion on this case based on personal bias.
    All political opinion is based on personal bias.
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    All political opinion is based on personal bias.
    Not necessarily. Political opinion can be based on logic, research, and philosophy. Calling people "wingnuts" is done along personal bias. Someone can say "hey I think blah is a good program". Doesn't necessarily make them a wingnut. There can be good reasons why one chooses that path. I don't call Obama a wingnut, but I can guarantee that his voting record is nothing close to what I could ever agree with. You're throwing out terms which draw into question someone's mental integrity without any proof of such integrity being in question. That's personal bias, not something based in fact. Just because people disagree with others doesn't make them a "wingnut". That's merely a dismissive term by those who don't want to bother with and/or can't debate.
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Not necessarily. Political opinion can be based on logic, research, and philosophy. Calling people "wingnuts" is done along personal bias. Someone can say "hey I think blah is a good program". Doesn't necessarily make them a wingnut. There can be good reasons why one chooses that path. I don't call Obama a wingnut, but I can guarantee that his voting record is nothing close to what I could ever agree with. You're throwing out terms which draw into question someone's mental integrity without any proof of such integrity being in question. That's personal bias, not something based in fact. Just because people disagree with others doesn't make them a "wingnut". That's merely a dismissive term by those who don't want to bother with and/or can't debate.
    First, I base my political beliefs on logic, research and philosophy. It is still personal bias. Given the same information on an issue, we would probably arrive at different conclusions based on logic and philosophy.

    Second, my belief that Paul is a wingnut is based on more than his voting record.

    Third, the term comes from the thread title.

    Fourth, I am only dismissing Ron Paul, no one else.
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    That's fine. But I guess we're going to disagree that fundamental disagreements in philosophy = wingnuttery.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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