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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    It's exactly posts like this which is why Libertarians get such a bad rap.
    Now just wait 1 second!

    WTH you think you have some sort of legitimate point just offering THAT as a reply??

    Now back up your statement. Or I'll just label you like I see : an anti-american fool.

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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Now just wait 1 second!

    WTH you think you have some sort of legitimate point just offering THAT as a reply??

    Now back up your statement. Or I'll just label you like I see : an anti-american fool.
    A liberal getting called anti-american to dismiss him. How different...
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    A liberal getting called anti-american to dismiss him. How different...
    Democrats recently did it to the Republicans as well. And if y'all can have your dismiss against libertarians by universally declaring us "wingnuts" (thus insulting our intelligence), why can't there be a dismiss against your side?
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    A liberal getting called anti-american to dismiss him. How different...
    No, you're expressed opinion that anything constitutional is 'kooky' IS NOT democrat OR republican, previously both the left and the right argued WITHIN the bounds of the constitution... now you come around and treat it like 'a goddamned piece of paper'... THAT makes me sick, I don't care who you are, if you don't like living in a republic you would litterally be more comfortable in places like China or North Korea and then those of us that like the constitution and what it stands for, won't have to worry about losing what is good about america.

    Now, you flapped your gums and attacked my views, now back up your position. Unless you can't offer any type of justification above and beyond what those mouthpieces on the news have told you.

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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    No, you're expressed opinion that anything constitutional is 'kooky' IS NOT democrat OR republican, previously both the left and the right argued WITHIN the bounds of the constitution... now you come around and treat it like 'a goddamned piece of paper'... THAT makes me sick, I don't care who you are, if you don't like living in a republic you would litterally be more comfortable in places like China or North Korea and then those of us that like the constitution and what it stands for, won't have to worry about losing what is good about america.

    Now, you flapped your gums and attacked my views, now back up your position. Unless you can't offer any type of justification above and beyond what those mouthpieces on the news have told you.
    Hey, let's build a strawman! Keep up the good work.
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Hey, let's build a strawman! Keep up the good work.
    Yes keep moving along without addressing : WHAT makes it kooky??

    It's as stupid as if I called your argument 'racist'... no rhyme or reason to it... just cause I said so... now come on, explain your point... or are you admitting you didn't have one... you just like calling Ron Paul kooky??

    And if you didn't read the post and see that every point was constitutional views... and you're expressed opinion is that it's 'kooky', I'm asking you to explain why and you continue to dodge the question... please stop debating like a 5 yr old.
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Democrats recently did it to the Republicans as well. And if y'all can have your dismiss against libertarians by universally declaring us "wingnuts" (thus insulting our intelligence), why can't there be a dismiss against your side?
    If it's not right when its done against you, why are you defending it when your side does it?
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Why is that again?
    Well lets see what he does in that post:

    I'm open to legitimate criticisms... just with a wide-stroke calling him and anyone that thinks like him is 'kooky', is the first step to saying that they are dangerous and should have their voices silenced... that they are talking about dangerous subjects... like the constitution.
    Let's see: first, he plays the victim card, talking about how this slippery slope that's going to leave to him having his voice silenced. Then he starts going on about how only libertarians care at all about the constitution.

    I totally hear you on that, it's almost rediculous especially when it deals with anything that goes against Obama.... it's always denied and the discussion is spent proving that something exists when the real discussion should be whether or not it is desired.
    Then he throws out this red herring about Obama that isn't relevent.

    You just say that because that's what the mouthpieces you see on the news say just that... if you spent more time researching the details for yourself then reliying on the 'experts' to spoon feed to you how to think, then you'd see that the constitution isn't 'kooky', the intent was to have very limited government... yet both the left and right are all gung ho about creating a huge megolithic federal government...
    Then he insults people who don't agree with him by ranting about how they believe what "mouthpieces on TV" tell them, and how they've been "spoonfed by experts what to think". Then another ramble about how his opponents hate the constitution.

    Listen, you might disagree that government should allow the people to retain the power through the cities and states, and the federal government deals with what the constitution tells it to deal with and nothing more... you might disagree with that, but that does not make it crazy to put individual rights protected above and beyond the federal governments attempt at creating a 'collective'... Look at China, that's what happens when you have a hugely powerful ruling class with a subservient lower class system.
    Nonsequiters about where power should be held, then a tirade about how opponents don't care about individual rights, then trying to suggest his opponents want things to be like in China.

    Make sense now?
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    If it's not right when its done against you, why are you defending it when your side does it?
    I'm not, I'm pointing out your side's hypocrisy. I didn't defend it or justify it. I merely said that her side uses it too, she herself used deflection terms. Just calling the spade a spade; nothing more.
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    If it's not right when its done against you, why are you defending it when your side does it?
    Ron Paul gets attacked from both the right and the left in much the same ways... now the official attacks are just as baseless as yours are... just as anti-constitutional, just as pro-central governance, jsut as pro-war, and so on...

    So, when someone comes along with old fashioned american values and sticks to those values with a level of integrity unheard of amongst pretty well any other politician... and THAT is what you are calling kooky... and you can't explain your position... just make the statement, it's hardly a valid argument you're making.

    That both the left and right are righteously indignant of their position and anything that goes against that position simply does not exist (or if it does exist more recently it's become 'racist') In either case I will be forced to source every opinion and statement ad nauseum... and here you come along and speak to the mental capacity of a simple belief (or set of beliefs) and apply a psychological analysis of entire groups based on that one set of views, and you can't even back it up with anything further... it's a pathetic debating tactic, keep it up so that anyone reading your tripe will see how strong your position really is.

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