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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't get what you're talking about. If it's abortion, then I agree with him. It's not necessarily a "religious" argument either. I'm atheist, I don't make religious arguments. But I do agree that right to life should be recognized. In general, even if he or I for that matter run our mouths about it, there's nothing we can do. The SCOTUS ruled on it, and that's the end of that.
    Please read about the Sanctity of life Act? It's a religious based piece fallacy of legislation and in Paul's stance the chances that his support of it is based on faith rather than not is highly likely.

    When Paul mentioned the legislation in a personal "Statement of Faith",[9] CBN News White House correspondent David Brody noted that Paul was an exception to the pattern of the 2008 Republican candidates for president not engaging in "God talk".[10] The California Catholic Daily also cited Paul as "abortion's 'unshakeable foe'" with the Act as evidence.[11]

    On January 22, 2008, the 35th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, Norma McCorvey ("Jane Roe"), now a pro-life activist, endorsed Paul for president based on his authorship of the Sanctity of Life Act and the We the People Act.[12]
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul
    I have never been one who is comfortable talking about my faith in the political arena. In fact, the pandering that typically occurs in the election season I find to be distasteful. But for those who have asked, I freely confess that Jesus Christ is my personal Savior, and that I seek His guidance in all that I do. I know, as you do, that our freedoms come not from man, but from God. My record of public service reflects my reverence for the Natural Rights with which we have been endowed by a loving Creator.

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    In 40 years of medical practice, I never once considered performing an abortion, nor did I ever find abortion necessary to save the life of a pregnant woman. In Congress, I have authored legislation that seeks to define life as beginning at conception, H.R. 1094. I am also the prime sponsor of H.R. 300, which would negate the effect of Roe v Wade by removing the ability of federal courts to interfere with state legislation to protect life. This is a practical, direct approach to ending federal court tyranny which threatens our constitutional republic and has caused the deaths of 45 million of the unborn. I have also authored H.R. 1095, which prevents federal funds to be used for so-called “population control.” Many talk about being pro-life. I have taken and will continue to advocate direct action to restore protection for the unborn.
    Seriously. That is not the end of that.
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    I don't care if people run their mouths about their religion. Not my business, people are free to practice and preach as they see fit so long as they don't infringe upon the rights of others. As for the bill, I mean if we're going to argue whether or not abortion laws are State or Federal issues, I'd have to say they are clearly State issues. The federal government was never charged with those powers, thus they do not have those powers. And that's not a religious argument.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't care if people run their mouths about their religion.
    I do care when running their mouths consists of trying to pass legislation on whether or not my wife can have an abortion if she so wishes.

    As for the bill, I mean if we're going to argue whether or not abortion laws are State or Federal issues, I'd have to say they are clearly State issues.
    So was slavery supposedly.

    The federal government was never charged with those powers, thus they do not have those powers. And that's not a religious argument.
    The government at no level has the right to dictate the reproductive choices of people. This silly state's issues bull**** right wingers bring up whenever they're too chicken**** to actually deal with an issue is annoying. Please give me a rational argument for a State having the power to tell women whether or not they should be allowed to have abortions but the Federal government not having said power? There isn't? Good.
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No. I don't like him because I'm weary of anyone in 21st century politics who wants to pull out of the UN and has fans who see him as 'logical'. Keep grasping.
    I have to grasp because you keep moving around.

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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    I have to grasp because you keep moving around.
    You asked why I didn't like Ron Paul. Cited a theory. I explained the reason. His mind lives in the 17th century. You are not satisfied with this reason. What can I do?
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The government at no level has the right to dictate the reproductive choices of people. This silly state's issues bull**** right wingers bring up whenever they're too chicken**** to actually deal with an issue is annoying. Please give me a rational argument for a State having the power to tell women whether or not they should be allowed to have abortions but the Federal government not having said power? There isn't? Good.
    It doesn't seem like you're even open to the argument, so there's no point. You asked a question and answered it yourself, so you're not interested in my opinion on the matter. So it's pointless, you're of course free to be as stubborn as you like; but don't pretend to engage in debate when you're completely closed off to the arguments which could be made.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It doesn't seem like you're even open to the argument, so there's no point. You asked a question and answered it yourself, so you're not interested in my opinion on the matter. So it's pointless, you're of course free to be as stubborn as you like; but don't pretend to engage in debate when you're completely closed off to the arguments which could be made.
    Typical Ikari. Act hurt whenever any kind of resistance is shown. Please don't come here telling us all that States should have a say in a matter that involves a woman and her doctor anymore than the Federal government does? Specially when you're one of the biggest defenders of drug legalization which affects entire neighborhoods. You don't have a single rock to step and this river is mighty strong.
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Typical Ikari. Act hurt whenever any kind of resistance is shown. Please don't come here telling us all that States should have a say in a matter that involves a woman and her doctor anymore than the Federal government does? Specially when you're one of the biggest defenders of drug legalization which affects entire neighborhoods. You don't have a single rock to step and this river is mighty strong.
    Hahaha, piss poor debate gets you nowhere. But if you just have to resort to attack, I suppose that just says a little something about your character. I think the matter involves the woman, her doctor, and the human child she carries. But I guess that doesn't count, does it? Here, let me act like you for a bit.

    How can the federal government intercede in policy and law that it was never authorized to intercede in especially when the right to life of the unborn human is at stake? It can't! Good.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    I don't know enough about Ron Paul to label him a "wingnut," but Bachman? That woman is as nutty as they come.

    Ron Paul's willingness to appear with her is enough to tell me that something's terribly wrong with his thinking.

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    Re: Wingnuts Unite: Ron Paul Joins Michelle Bachmann in Weirdest Town Hall Ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think the matter involves the woman, her doctor, and the human child she carries. But I guess that doesn't count, does it? Here, let me act like you for a bit.
    This depends on YOUR personal beliefs regarding life and not mine. I don't believe humanity starts at conception. I don't believe it's a human being until AFTER the 3rd trimester. You do. That's your perogative if you want to call a fetus, zygote whatever a 'child'. It isn't. But please stay out of people's reproductive choices and tell Mr. Paul to do the same? Thanks.

    How can the federal government intercede in policy and law that it was never authorized to intercede in especially when the right to life of the unborn human is at stake? It can't! Good.
    It shouldn't have to. Just like the Federal government shouldn't have had to deal with slavery in a perfect world because well, it wouldn't exist in the first place. I mean if States would stop claiming the important things as their right to dictate and regulate like say : slavery, the reproductive choices of women, education, etc then I think people would take this whole 'State's right' thing more seriously.
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