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People need to learn to take a longer view.
The fact of the matter is that the current president is in way over his head, and it's getting harder and harder for him to act on substantive matters. This situation is likley to get much worse.
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The other falacious attack against Obama is the he is taking forever to make a simple decision on Afghanistan. Well some wise man or maybe wise guy one said that a quick decision made to solve a complex problem is usually wrong.
Some say that the decision about Afghanistan is simple just send more troops.
I guess if I was ever accused of being wise I would give this sage adivise : simple solutions to a complex problems are usually wrong.
Well a quick and narrow minded decision may just send us down the wrong road and to a rapid disaster.
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The President of the United States is literally expected to perform many activities in various subject matters every day. Evaluating his foreign policy stance and actions via his relations with plebeian media personalities is utterly silly to me.
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May I ask..can we evaluate foreign policy stances by the fact that he spoke to General McChrystal once after sending him on a surge strategy in Afghanistan? And if we can, what is your eval?
It was the Austrasians, that hewed on bravely through the thick of the fight, it was they who found and cut down the Saracen King.
He spoke with General McChrystal again just a couple days ago. And that is face to face meetings. I have not heard anything about the number of phonecalls they have had between each other.
You know, phones, these marvolous inventions that let people speak to each other without actually having to be in the same room.
Doesn't really matter. The troops are only one aspect of the nation. Obama can take as much time as he wants to address the others. Several weeks consisting primarily of Afghanistan strategy study is pretty generous.how the troops percieve his focus.
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Should the President of the United States simply reinforce a military effort that has largely failed over the past eight years .... and do it without careful study?
That essentially what is being asked here.
Not one post in here clamoring about the President dragging his feet has addressed the likely results of a decision to reinforce, by how much, and what we expect to be the result.
I will submit that there has been a key factor in the President's decision to delay making a decision: the Afghan election.
There is little doubt in anyone's mind that the US military can largely bring the Taliban to heel. To what purpose though?
The people in the remote villages of Afghanistan will not accept permenant governance by a foreign miliyary power. Essentially, if the military component of this strategy is all we got, then we have a permenant military occupation of a hundred thousand soldiers or more.
Sound like victory?
The real victory is found through the Afghan government. The Afghan people are fed up with corruption and the inability to deliver services. the Afghan security forces are riddled with corruption, often as brutal as the Taliban, and only tacitly loyal to the Afghan central government. They are also not participating in combat operations in the critical sectos of the country.
It is a pretty sad state when teh average Afghan civilians can look at the Taliban and think, "Well, at least they are not corrupt and they do exactly what they say they will do."
Now we add an election that is widely believed to have been stolen on top of this and we have a very serious question to answer: Can we stabilize and professionalize the Afghan government?
Is Karzai damaged goods in the eyes of the Afghan people? And, bearing in mind what happened when we pushed out governments that we didn;t agree with in Vietnam, how exactly can we stabilize a government propped up in place not by merit but by corruption and nepotism?
Can we stabilize and professionalize the Afghan government?
If the answer is no, then we have no business sending in tens of thousands of more tropps to accomplish .... something.
So, all those thinking that the US government should just send its soldiers off to fight at the drop of a hat, what exactly is it you want us to accomplish?
Are we ready for more war like this?
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