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    Re: Obama to take weeks to study Afghanistan strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    OK. At this point, you're simply avoiding the point. Carry on.
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    Re: Obama to take weeks to study Afghanistan strategy

    Obama lying before his potus feet even hit the ground.

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    Re: Obama to take weeks to study Afghanistan strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    OK. At this point, you're simply avoiding the point. Carry on.
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    Re: Obama to take weeks to study Afghanistan strategy

    Oh, BTW ya'll. I guess we are no longer fighting a war against Jihad fanatics. But territory resistors.

    Most insurgents in Afghanistan not religiously motivated, military reports say - The Boston Globe
    WASHINGTON - Nearly all of the insurgents battling US and NATO troops in Afghanistan are not religiously motivated Taliban and Al Qaeda warriors, but a new generation of tribal fighters vying for control of territory, mineral wealth, and smuggling routes, according to summaries of new US intelligence reports.

    “Ninety percent is a tribal, localized insurgency,’’ said one US intelligence official in Washington who helped draft the assessments. “Ten percent are hardcore ideologues fighting for the Taliban.’’

    US commanders and politicians often loosely refer to the enemy as the Taliban or Al Qaeda, giving rise to the image of holy warriors seeking to spread a fundamentalist form of Islam. But the mostly ethnic Pashtun fighters are often deeply connected by family and social ties to the valleys and mountains where they are fighting, and they see themselves as opposing the United States be cause it is an occupying power, the officials and analysts said.
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    Re: Obama to take weeks to study Afghanistan strategy

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    I can see where dear leader is coming from on this issue. There are some things that require meticulous study.


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    Re: Obama to take weeks to study Afghanistan strategy

    I think before he does anything he needs to return the prisoner of war status to those captured in our wars. We send them to odd juristictions and have there POW status subverted. That means that they are no longer protected from torture by the Geneva Conv. They have no defense other than once sided mercy.

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner_of_war]Prisoner of war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
    Specifically, Chapter II of the Annex to the 1907 Hague Convention covered the treatment of prisoners of war in detail. These were further expanded in the Third Geneva Convention of 1929, and its revision of 1949. Article 4 of the Third Geneva Convention protects captured military personnel, some guerrilla fighters and certain civilians. It applies from the moment a prisoner is captured until he or she is released or repatriated. One of the main provisions of the convention makes it illegal to torture prisoners and states that a prisoner can only be required to give their name, date of birth, rank and service number (if applicable).

    However, nations vary in their dedication to following these laws, and historically the treatment of POWs has varied greatly. During the 20th century, Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany were notorious for atrocities against prisoners during World War II. The German military used the Soviet Union's refusal to sign the Geneva Convention as a reason for not providing the necessities of life to Russian POWs. North Korean and North Vietnamese forces routinely killed or mistreated prisoners taken during those conflicts.
    We are a noble nation. Now let's act like it and not just say it please. What is the point in removing a prisoners protection from torture, then putting into place obtuse laws making it easy for individuals to torture. Then blasting the media over and over with "We don't torture?"
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    Re: Obama to take weeks to study Afghanistan strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    He did a "serious review" in March and announced a new "comprehensive strategy" then. He was still saying it was a must-win situation in July. Yet he's been at this waffling for over a month now.

    What changed in 6-7 weeks which requires this level of review?
    Didn't the elections happen, or am I confused?
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    Re: Obama to take weeks to study Afghanistan strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Didn't the elections happen, or am I confused?
    why yes, they did......and karzai isn't exactly the flavor of the month.

    i hate to say this, but that country has been a cluster**** for decades, and we can't change that. i think it's good to more carefully consider what our strategy should be. when we're out, they will continue to kill each other.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Obama to take weeks to study Afghanistan strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    why yes, they did......and karzai isn't exactly the flavor of the month.

    i hate to say this, but that country has been a cluster**** for centuries, and we can't change that. i think it's good to more carefully consider what our strategy should be. when we're out, they will continue to kill each other.
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    Re: Obama to take weeks to study Afghanistan strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    You'd rather he make a rash decision without collecting evidence and consulting all of the relevant people? Once upon a time we had a president who tried that strategy. Our troops ended up in Iraq.
    He's been in office for 9 months and met with the McChrystal twice the 2nd meeting taking place only after he was shamed into it but yet still forced the General to fly to Copenhagen. I guess Obama felt that shilling for the DemocRAT Chicago political machine was more important than consulting with the top General in Afghanistan.

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