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    43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforcemen

    43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforcements


    CNSNews.com - 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforcements


    (CNSNews.com) – Another American died in Afghanistan on Wednesday, the final day of September--and exactly one month after the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan sent a confidential war assessment to the Obama administration, warning that more forces are needed--soon.

    The as-yet-unnamed American serviceman who died on Wednesday was caught in a suicide attack in Khost Province, in eastern Afghanistan, press reports said.

    On August 30, Gen. Stanley McChrystal sent Defense Secretary Robert Gates a war assessment in which he said more U.S. troops--and a new U.S. strategy--are needed if the U.S. is to defeat the insurgents in Afghanistan.

    Since that Aug. 30 date, a total of 43 soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines have died in a war that is now the subject of much discussion--and apparently some confusion--in Washington. Forty-two of those casualties have been identified by name in U.S. Defense Department press releases (see below), while the 43rd casualty, which occurred today, has been confirmed in press reports, but not by name.

    In his confidential report, which was leaked to the Washington Post on Sept. 21, Gen. McChrystal warned that defeating the insurgents will not be possible if the United States fails to "gain the initiative and reverse insurgent momentum" over the next 12 months.

    McChrystal reportedly has prepared a separate request for tens of thousands of additional U.S. troops to be sent to the 68,000 already in Afghanistan.

    Since Sept. 21, when the Washington Post leaked information from McChrystal’s confidential report, the White House has been on the defensive over its Afghanistan strategy.










    Which is more inportant to Obama the olympics or US troops. There has been a request for reinforcments and a plea that we are going to lose this war id this requirment is not met.


    It would be one thing for the CiC to say "no", but to do 50 or so interviews and leno, then run off to take credit for getting the olympics while troops are dying waiting for an answer?


    Inexcusable, just when you think this guy can't get any worse. Shame on him.



    But first, Obama welcomes golfing great Arnold Palmer to the Oval Office,” the Associated Press reported on Wednesday. Palmer is in town to receive the Congressional Gold Medal.

    On Thursday, Obama plans to fly to Copenhagen to pitch Chicago as the venue for the 2016 Olympics. (See related story


    pathetic. simply pathetic.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Which is more inportant to Obama the olympics or US troops. There has been a request for reinforcments and a plea that we are going to lose this war id this requirment is not met.

    It would be one thing for the CiC to say "no", but to do 50 or so interviews and leno, then run off to take credit for getting the olympics while troops are dying waiting for an answer?


    Inexcusable, just when you think this guy can't get any worse. Shame on him.

    pathetic. simply pathetic.
    Let's be real. Even if the President ordered more soldiers into Afghanistan today they would not be on the ground until December/January at the earliest.

    Given that that time frame is historically very low in terms of combat operations in the country, the White House obviously feels it has some time to make this decision.

    Additionally, the President pledged during his campaign that he would not send soldiers anywhere without a clear strategy. The deployment in March was to secure the elections, and since then the entire situation has really changed in the country. It therefore makes sense, in accordance with his campaign pledge, to delay on a troop request until a new strategy can be formulated by the Pentagon and the White House.

    While certainly it is tragic that any American soldiers are dying, I think it is a stretch, and unfair, to say that "troops are dying waiting for the President's answer."

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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    The request for troops was filed with the Pentagon on September 25. That is 5 days ago. Let's save the over the top hysteria and hyper partisanship.

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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The request for troops was filed with the Pentagon on September 25. That is 5 days ago. Let's save the over the top hysteria and hyper partisanship.
    Seriously, its not as if the President can only do one thing. I'm sure Obama and his staffers are looking at the request, weighing the pros and cons and will come to a timely decision. In the meantime, its not like he should drop everything else he was scheduled to do until this decision is reached.

    You act as if you're opposed to a President with the ability to multi-task. But more really you're opposed to a Democratic President - whether he can multi-task or not. Which is fine, but I'd recommend you stick to criticisms over things that actually matter - not griping about where Michelle Obama shops or what shoes she wears or that the President did this one trivial thing or that trivial thing. There's plenty of areas were than can be substantial, meaningful discussion on Obama and his policies, this is not one of them.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    Seriously, its not as if the President can only do one thing. I'm sure Obama and his staffers are looking at the request, weighing the pros and cons and will come to a timely decision. In the meantime, its not like he should drop everything else he was scheduled to do until this decision is reached.
    One thing to understand is that General Casey, the Chief of Staff of the Army, is reportedly either "concerned" or against the plan. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/27/wo...litary.html?em

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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The request for troops was filed with the Pentagon on September 25. That is 5 days ago. Let's save the over the top hysteria and hyper partisanship.



    You keep crying "hyper-partisan" in every thread that critisizes your king.

    Stop it. it's laughable.


    I maintain it is you who is the over hyper-partisan obama apparachik.


    "On August 30, Gen. Stanley McChrystal sent Defense Secretary Robert Gates a war assessment in which he said more U.S. troops--and a new U.S. strategy--are needed if the U.S. is to defeat the insurgents in Afghanistan"




    you think that if we may be losing a war, he would get on it..... top priority.


    He is not giving iraq or afghanistan the same priority he is giving leno.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    You keep crying "hyper-partisan" in every thread that critisizes your king.

    Stop it. it's laughable.


    I maintain it is you who is the over hyper-partisan obama apparachik.


    "On August 30, Gen. Stanley McChrystal sent Defense Secretary Robert Gates a war assessment in which he said more U.S. troops--and a new U.S. strategy--are needed if the U.S. is to defeat the insurgents in Afghanistan"




    you think that if we may be losing a war, he would get on it..... top priority.


    He is not giving iraq or afghanistan the same priority he is giving leno.
    No, I say it when people appear to be putting partisanship over reasonableness. 5 days since the actual troop request was made, that has resistance from the pentagon, including from McChrystal's boss. The delay is not unreasonable. Suggesting he is more interested in Leno than this issue is dishonest and over the top partisanship.

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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Which is more inportant to Obama the olympics or US troops. There has been a request for reinforcments and a plea that we are going to lose this war id this requirment is not met.


    It would be one thing for the CiC to say "no", but to do 50 or so interviews and leno, then run off to take credit for getting the olympics while troops are dying waiting for an answer?


    Inexcusable, just when you think this guy can't get any worse. Shame on him.







    pathetic. simply pathetic.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Let's reduce the hyperactive partisan hackery.

    December 6th, the Iraq Study Group proposes what would become the surge.

    Exactly 5 days later, Bush met to discuss the plan.

    January 10th the plan was announced. That's 35 days since the proposal. By then, over 200 US servicemen had died. By March, 2 months after the vanguard had been deployed, the results were not excepted, with large number of dead, May 2007 was the record of US troops lost for 2007. The last two brigades got there in April and May.

    By the time the violence started to decline, September 2007, almost 11 months had gone by. Probably more as the White House was likely aware of what the Iraq Study Group was working on for months.

    Also remember that the Surge itself was not the approximate cause of the turn in the war. The strategy was a radical shift away from seek and destroy to protecting local communities and having troops stay in those communities for extended periods of time as well as forming strong ties with the Awakening councils. Flooding the country with additional troops alone did not produce the results we wanted.

    Does Afghanistan have a workable strategy as well? Flooding the country with more troops after the blatant fraud in the recent election will not send a good sign to the Afghans.

    Iraq War troop surge of 2007 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    U.S. death toll in Iraq passes 3,000 - USATODAY.com
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