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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    You keep crying "hyper-partisan" in every thread that critisizes your king.
    It's a worn out but valid criticism.

    Stop it. it's laughable.
    Only if the complaint is reasonable. Make reasonable objections and you won't be called hyper-partisan.


    "On August 30, Gen. Stanley McChrystal sent Defense Secretary Robert Gates a war assessment in which he said more U.S. troops--and a new U.S. strategy--are needed if the U.S. is to defeat the insurgents in Afghanistan"




    you think that if we may be losing a war, he would get on it..... top priority.
    The war can't be prioritized any higher.

    He is not giving iraq or afghanistan the same priority he is giving leno.
    Commander-and-chief is only one function of his office. George Bush's difficulty in comprehending that was one of the hallmark failings of his presidency. Any bureaucratic or logistical work the executive branch can do relating to the war is already being done. Your failure to incorporate that into your understanding of Obama's doings makes your complaint unreasonable, and therefore hyper-partisan.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Are you going to cry, when I treat you exactly the same way you are acting towards me? Again?
    Interesting view on history you got there. I didn't make ridiculously snide comments meant to insult your intelligence and not discuss the actual subject. All I did was point out that the Surge took five days before Dubya meet with anyone. I see you did not want to discuss this.

    Interesting how you think getting your rear handed to you repetitively equates to me crying.

    So then if a surge is NOT the right plan, perhaps President not-a-decider, can pull em back and use drones.
    Perhaps you are unaware of the associated costs?

    You are a hyperpartisan hack because you give Obama **** for things you never gave Bush **** for. Notice how you completely ignored my entire post.

    Treating one party differently for doing the same thing you refuse to criticize your party for is by definition hypocrisy. Making stupid **** like this into mountains is by definition partisan hackery.

    Bush took 5 days before he talked to the generals. Why didn't you criticize him then?

    If you don't want to be labeled a hack, don't engage in hackery. It's real simple.

    But I digress. Ethereal is completely, 100% correct in this post:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/off-to...post1058282723

    And I shall be following his advice. Good day.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Interesting view on history you got there. I didn't make ridiculously snide comments meant to insult your intelligence and not discuss the actual subject. All I did was point out that the Surge took five days before Dubya meet with anyone. I see you did not want to discuss this.

    Interesting how you think getting your rear handed to you repetitively equates to me crying.



    Perhaps you are unaware of the associated costs?

    You are a hyperpartisan hack because you give Obama **** for things you never gave Bush **** for. Notice how you completely ignored my entire post.

    Treating one party differently for doing the same thing you refuse to criticize your party for is by definition hypocrisy. Making stupid **** like this into mountains is by definition partisan hackery.

    Bush took 5 days before he talked to the generals. Why didn't you criticize him then?

    If you don't want to be labeled a hack, don't engage in hackery. It's real simple.

    But I digress. Ethereal is completely, 100% correct in this post:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/off-to...post1058282723

    And I shall be following his advice. Good day.



    Awesome, your mouth wrote another check you can't cash. you got what you gave, now you want to take your ball and go home. Don't let the door hit ya!



    As for the thread and your post, it's moronic. it's been 70 days since Obama had contact. it has been known that more troops were needed. Obama has been absent on afghanistan who he claimed was forgotten about and he would make it a top priority.


    Please list the main issues he is putting below Afghanistan,.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Awesome, your mouth wrote another check you can't cash. you got what you gave, now you want to take your ball and go home. Don't let the door hit ya!



    As for the thread and your post, it's moronic. it's been 70 days since Obama had contact. it has been known that more troops were needed. Obama has been absent on afghanistan who he claimed was forgotten about and he would make it a top priority.


    Please list the main issues he is putting below Afghanistan,.
    Not accurate. Troops have been requested. Whether they are required is opinion, and there is disagreement on that opinion.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    I believe Bush took about 5 years to change strategies in Iraq, I'm gonna give Obama more than 5 days.
    So his top general begged him for five years, and then he finally relented?
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    His actions ae clear evidence where his priorities lay.






    If the gloves fit....


    You are doing exactly that. You as a vet should be getting pissed about this as I and many others are including other libs and centrists....


    IF you find it vile, ask yourself why am I suggesting this. Is it to get you? (nah, I like you), or is it because you are showing signs of excuse making for your God King, and at the same time, putting him above the troops.
    Pure partisan BS.

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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Not accurate. Troops have been requested. Whether they are required is opinion, and there is disagreement on that opinion.
    The theater commander says he needs them. That's purdy much the only credible opinion needed to make the decision to send the additional forces.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So his top general begged him for five years, and then he finally relented?
    Generals work for the POTUS in this country. They are simply advisers amongst many other advisers a POTUS listens too.

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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The theater commander says he needs them. That's purdy much the only credible opinion needed to make the decision to send the additional forces.
    The Chief of Staff of the army is not credible? The SecDef is not credible? The JCS is not credible? That is where the debate is taking place now.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Which is more inportant to Obama the olympics or US troops. There has been a request for reinforcments and a plea that we are going to lose this war id this requirment is not met.
    False dilemma. If we see Obama lobbying for Chicago, that doesn't mean he isn't doing anything else.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    It would be one thing for the CiC to say "no", but to do 50 or so interviews and leno, then run off to take credit for getting the olympics while troops are dying waiting for an answer?
    Either troop strength isn't the only problem, or it isn't even the problem to begin with, since things haven't dramatically improved since he increased our troop strength there by 50%.

    Given that, it would be irresponsible in the extreme for him to simply order that more troops be sent in without taking the time to think about the situation. If he did so simply because his general asked for the men, and in so doing got more Americans killed without any appreciable gains, that blood would be on his hands.

    Giving your general on the ground everything he wants isn't your job as President. We have a military which is controlled by a civillian for a reason.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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