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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    That's a pretty good ratio for a highly trained fighting force. British forces often accept disparity in terms of numbers, with a ratio of 4 to 1 being fully expected. The Falklands was an example where we were outnumbered.

    You have to take into account our superior fire power over the Taliban, it always helps to even the odds.

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    That's what I mean, though. It's as if the Tallies assaulting the outpost didn't take into account the fire superiority.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's what I mean, though. It's as if the Tallies assaulting the outpost didn't take into account the fire superiority.
    I,m not sure they dont take it into account. Theres simply little they can do about it, as you know 'we fight the enemy thats in front of us'.

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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    I,m not sure they dont take it into account. Theres simply little they can do about it, as you know 'we fight the enemy thats in front of us'.

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    We also, 'turn out weaknesses into strengths and the enemy's strengths become his weakness', too. Why attack a position that you know will be unsuccessful, lose half your unit and only kill 8 of your enemy?
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We also, 'turn out weaknesses into strengths and the enemy's strengths become his weakness', too. Why attack a position that you know will be unsuccessful, lose half your unit and only kill 8 of your enemy?
    It easy if you don't care if you live or not.

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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    It easy if you don't care if you live or not.

    Not being afraid of dieing and being stupid aren't the same thing. There still has to be a method to the madness. Just like Japanese Banzai and Kamikaze attacks; it was bad tactics, but there was an objective.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Not being afraid of dieing and being stupid aren't the same thing. There still has to be a method to the madness. Just like Japanese Banzai and Kamikaze attacks; it was bad tactics, but there was an objective.
    Yeah, to inflict casualties.

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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    Yeah, to inflict casualties.
    Inflict more casualties than they lost. A 1:5 kill ratio, in favor of the enemy, is good for morale. It's been my experience that most folks, regardless of religion, or culture, are more afraid of dieing that you would think.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Inflict more casualties than they lost. A 1:5 kill ratio, in favor of the enemy, is good for morale. It's been my experience that most folks, regardless of religion, or culture, are more afraid of dieing that you would think.
    There is some reason that these Taliban fighters to fearlessly attack a numerically superior army with better weapons and training...

    What is it?

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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    There is some reason that these Taliban fighters to fearlessly attack a numerically superior army with better weapons and training...

    What is it?
    Stupidity? Poor leadership? In experience? Bad judgement? Over confident, because they knew they outnumbered the troops holding the outpost? Didn't count on American combat multipliers? Those are a few things I can think of, but I have a hard time believing that it was a well conceived assaut.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

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    GYSGT well said GYSGT,go and show them what it is all about,just to win.

    all the best to u.

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    The military's unspoken and unofficial motto anymore is to win despite the American politician.
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