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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They're telling him what they need to do their jobs. he seems to think they're all fll of ****. That's micromanaging, to be sure.
    Really? Could you point me to an Obama quote where he says anything of the sort?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It doesn't take long when you already got soldiers on the ground need help, unless you just wanna say, "screw'em", and just let'em deal with it.


    . . .

    Well, I guess I shouldn't expect any other response from someone who doesn't have access to any of the data the President does and who isn't ultimately responsible for the lives of tens of thousands of military personnel, much less the overall situation of an entire foreign nation.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    No,you were insisting that it was only MacArther that wanted to nuke China...I showed you that Truman was on the same page and even ordered the deployment of nuclear weapons to the Korean theater.

    Try again.

    You must be deliberately feigning obtuseness. The whole point is who gets the final decision......The POTUS or his generals....& the POTUS is the Decider. (considerations are not the point here regardless of you throwing up smoke screens about them)

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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    You lose yet again.
    Your claims of victory are hollow & getting old.

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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Sorry, but I have an awfully hard time of using the word "only" when I think of 17,000 soldiers.
    When I was deployed to Iraq my base had 20,000 soldiers living on it....It was about as big as a small town area wise with plenty of room to spare.17,000 troops are a tiny drop in a bucket containing 2.4 million Personnel.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    The whole point is who gets the final decision
    No. THIS is "hollow" and "getting old."
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    You must be deliberately feigning obtuseness. The whole point is who gets the final decision......The POTUS or his generals....& the POTUS is the Decider. (considerations are not the point here regardless of you throwing up smoke screens about them)
    Show me where I argued it should be otherwise.

    I have argued that Obama should follow the advice of the military....Not hand over control of the government to the joint chiefs.
    Last edited by Strucky; 10-07-09 at 07:25 PM.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    When I was deployed to Iraq my base had 20,000 soldiers living on it....It was about as big as a small town area wise with plenty of room to spare.17,000 troops are a tiny drop in a bucket containing 2.4 million Personnel.
    The fact that 17,000 is a small number when compared to the total of the whole doesn't make it a small number on the battlefield.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    The fact that 17,000 is a small number when compared to the total of the whole doesn't make it a small number on the battlefield.
    17,000 is not enough to control the situation.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    Show me where I argued it should be otherwise.

    I have argued that Obama should follow the advice of the military....Not hand over control of the government to the joint chiefs.
    Then why shouldn't Truman have followed MacArthur's advise to drop A-bombs?

    Answer to both questions was written down by our founding fathers who didn't want the military to have final decision authority...They gave that authority to civilians.

    You say that Obama "should follow the advice of the military..".....which can be true in many cases but "Should" is too strong a word.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    17,000 is not enough to control the situation.

    It's not 17,000, it's 17,000 added to 36-odd thousand.

    That said, neither you nor I are qualified to say what is or is not enough to control the situation.
    Last edited by TacticalEvilDan; 10-07-09 at 07:36 PM. Reason: Added quote block for clarification
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