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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post

    So I ask again, totally pertinent to your topic:
    Why should we accept your castigation of the CinC as knowing better than the CinC & all his advisers combined?

    That's a fair question to ask you & not an attack.

    Because common sense should dictate that if your Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, your CENTCOM commander and your theater command are all of the same opinion, it shouldn't take this long to make a decision.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Because common sense should dictate that if your Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, your CENTCOM commander and your theater command are all of the same opinion, it shouldn't take this long to make a decision.
    It obviously does take this long to come up with the correct decision. Afghanistan is not a simple problem.

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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

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    It obviously does take this long to come up with the correct decision. Afghanistan is not a simple problem.
    The correct decision would be to listen to his military commanders.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    There's nothing "obvious" about it.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    It obviously does take this long to come up with the correct decision. Afghanistan is not a simple problem.
    If three men with over 100 years of combined military experience, who have proven themselves on the battlefield, tell you what the correct decision is, it's usually wise to trust them.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucky View Post
    The correct decision would be to listen to his military commanders.
    Not at all! Civilians control our military...not vice versa! You couldn't be more wrong.
    Last edited by Devil505; 10-07-09 at 06:30 PM.

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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If three men with over 100 years of combined military experience, who have proven themselves on the battlefield, tell you what the correct decision is, it's usually wise to trust them.
    & when our founding fathers specifically prescribed civilian control of the military "it's usually wise to trust them."

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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Not at all! Civilians control our military...not vice versa! You couldn't be more wrong.
    Civilians do NOT run military operations in a war zone.
    Last edited by Strucky; 10-07-09 at 06:33 PM.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Not at all! Civilians control our military...not vice versa!
    Just because civilians run the show doesn't mean they know what they're doing. They should be smart enough to know their limitations when comes to military matters and trust the leaders that they put in place.
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    Re: 43 U.S. Troops Have Died in Afghanistan Since Gen. McChrystal Called for Reinforc

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    & when our founding fathers specifically prescribed civilian control of the military "it's usually wise to trust them."
    When the fouding fathers were looking for someone to make miltiary decisions, who did they turn to? It sure as hell wasn't a lawyer with zero military experience.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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