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    Senate Finance Committee Public Option amendment votes

    Rockefeller's Public Option Amendment failed in the SFC:

    "The final vote was 8-15 with 5 Democrats--Conrad, Lincoln, Carper, Bill Nelson, and Chairman Baucus--voting with all Republicans to kill the proposal."

    Rockefeller's Public Option Amendment Fails; Schumer's Public Option Up Next | TPMDC


    This was the 'strong' public option amendment in the finance committee. There's still a Schumer amendment, and a Schumer/Cantwell amendment (other public option versions), and Snowe's triggered public option amendment.


    I am thinking the bill will come out of Finance with no public option

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    Re: Senate Finance Committee Public Option amendment votes

    Here's a description of the public option amendments the SFC will vote on:


    The three proposals before the Finance Committee are:

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    Rockefeller: The plan would start in 2013 and abide by the same regulations as private plans. The secretary of health and human services could negotiate prescription drug prices and modernize the way medical services are delivered and paid for. Reimbursement rates would be based on Medicare rates plus 5% for most doctors. Hospitals and doctors that participate in Medicare would provide services under the new plan unless they opted out. Update 3 p.m. ET Tuesday: The committee defeated this amendment 15-8.

    Schumer/Cantwell: The plan by Sens. Charles Schumer of New York and Maria Cantwell of Washington would be self-sustaining through premiums. The secretary would negotiate reimbursement rates and they could not be higher than the average rate of all other plans in the exchange or gateway. (This is the same provision included in a reform bill passed by the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions).

    Schumer Level-Playing-Field Option: The plan would be self-sustaining through premiums and co-payments, and like private plans, would have to establish a reserve fund. Reimbursement rates would be negotiated. The government could not use Medicare "like a stick" to get doctors and hospitals to participate. They could opt in if they wanted. Florida Democrat Bill Nelson has not committed to anything, but said recently that Schumer's level-playing-field option is "very attractive."

    If all of the above fail, the fallback is Snowe's "safety net fallback plan," or trigger. It would set up a non-profit government corporation to provide a safety-net plan. The plan would be available in any state in which affordable coverage was not available on the exchange to at least 95 percent of state residents.

    more ...

    Debate on Public Health Insurance Plan Explodes in Senate -- Politics Daily

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    Re: Senate Finance Committee Public Option amendment votes

    How does this douche bag Senator from liberal Delaware get away with voting against the pubic option?

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    Re: Senate Finance Committee Public Option amendment votes

    Quote Originally Posted by dragondad View Post
    How does this douche bag Senator from liberal Delaware get away with voting against the pubic option?
    I don't think Carper's a liberal, is he?
    But, still, good question !

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    Re: Senate Finance Committee Public Option amendment votes

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    This was the 'strong' public option amendment in the finance committee. There's still a Schumer amendment, and a Schumer/Cantwell amendment (other public option versions), and Snowe's triggered public option amendment.


    I am thinking the bill will come out of Finance with no public option
    I think the Schumer Amendment is what most of the Democrats will vote for...and Snowe's proposal will be the fallback. I think we're most likely to end up with something similar to Snowe's proposal in the final bill.
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    Re: Senate Finance Committee Public Option amendment votes

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    I don't think Carper's a liberal, is he?
    But, still, good question !
    Yes he's one of the most conservative Democrats in the Senate and is a member of the DLC.

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    Re: Senate Finance Committee Public Option amendment votes

    Seems that most of the Democrats on the Finance committee are more moderate, that said, I have serious doubts that a public option could have passed a general senate vote.

    Still might try to see the issue forced in conference, have to wait and see.

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    Re: Senate Finance Committee Public Option amendment votes

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    I don't think Carper's a liberal, is he?
    But, still, good question !
    Yes he's one of the most conservative Democrats in the Senate and is a member of the DLC.

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    Re: Senate Finance Committee Public Option amendment votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I think the Schumer Amendment is what most of the Democrats will vote for...and Snowe's proposal will be the fallback. I think we're most likely to end up with something similar to Snowe's proposal in the final bill.

    Well, ur right, more Dems voted for the Schumer amendment, but it just failed too:


    Schumer Public Option Amendment Fails in Finance Committee
    Brian Beutler | September 29, 2009, 3:42PM

    The Senate Finance Committee can't even endorse a modest public option like Chuck Schumer's. Citing his belief that a public option can't pass on the Senate floor "at this time," Finance chairman Max Baucus joined two Democrats and all Republicans in voting down the amendment, which failed 10 to 13.

    Joining Baucus on the Democrats' side of the dais were Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND) and, by proxy, Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) who wasn't present for the vote.

    There will be no public option in the Finance Committee's health care bill.

    Schumer Public Option Amendment Fails in Finance Committee | TPMDC
    Last edited by jackalope; 09-29-09 at 04:58 PM.

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    Re: Senate Finance Committee Public Option amendment votes

    Quote Originally Posted by FlanaganReport View Post
    Seems that most of the Democrats on the Finance committee are more moderate, that said, I have serious doubts that a public option could have passed a general senate vote.

    Still might try to see the issue forced in conference, have to wait and see.

    I think it could pass a general Senate vote, but not the Finance Committee.

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