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    Senate Democrats Vote Unanimously To Destroy American Farmers, America’s Foodsupply

    September 23, 2009
    Incredible: Senate Democrats Vote Unanimously To Destroy American Farmers, America’s Food Supply, And Our National Security!

    Thanks to Barack Obama, unemployment in parts of the Valley is at 41 percent. Hard working American Farmers, Patriots, who have spent a lifetime growing our food, are now standing in lines for six and eight hours at a time to get canned goods from China just to survive!

    This is a crime against humanity.

    If you don’t know the story, here’s the deal. The Obama regime is using the excuse of a fish, a two inch bait fish, the Delta Smelt, which they claim is an “endangered species” to shut down all of the water to the San Joaquin Valley. They have created a modern day dust bowl out of some of the most beautiful farm land on earth. Some 400,000 acres have been destroyed with one million total acres in jeopardy.

    Incredible: Senate Democrats Vote Unanimously To Destroy American Farmers, America?s Food Supply, And Our National Security! A Time For Choosing
    The democrats have created food lines in this country and they voted for a mino over American farmers in the heart of Americas bread basket this would be funny if it wasn't so god damn sick. This is akin to what Stalin did to the Ukrainians and the Kulaks. It's time for a mother ****ing revolution watch your ****ing backs.

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    Re: Senate Democrats Vote Unanimously To Destroy American Farmers, America’s Foodsupp

    My parents went driving down this area the other day and just saw everything dying down there. It's a shame. However, I heard that the reason was California's water supply and not some fish.

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    Re: Senate Democrats Vote Unanimously To Destroy American Farmers, America’s Foodsupp

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    My parents went driving down this area the other day and just saw everything dying down there. It's a shame. However, I heard that the reason was California's water supply and not some fish.
    It's the fish.

    The Democrats stand on this issue, demonstrates why we should never allow them in power again.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twd59PrqCNg"]YouTube - Sean Hannity exposes the man-made drought in California[/ame]

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    Re: Senate Democrats Vote Unanimously To Destroy American Farmers, America’s Foodsupp

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    The democrats have created food lines in this country and they voted for a mino over American farmers in the heart of Americas bread basket this would be funny if it wasn't so god damn sick. This is akin to what Stalin did to the Ukrainians and the Kulaks. It's time for a mother ****ing revolution watch your ****ing backs.
    Wow, ridiculously partisan source and article. Half the article is just comparing the current administration to Communism and Marxism. There may be a little true content, but it's so ridiculously drowned in partisan hackery that one can't even concentrate on the what the article is supposed to be about.

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    Re: Senate Democrats Vote Unanimously To Destroy American Farmers, America’s Foodsupp

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    It's the fish.

    The Democrats stand on this issue, demonstrates why we should never allow them in power again.

    YouTube - Sean Hannity exposes the man-made drought in California
    Thank you, that video was actually much more respectful than that article and more articulate. While I don't like Hannity, it did at least give a little time to the NRDC to give their side. Without researching more, I can't say which would cause more damage to California, though I do feel for the people in this region and wish them luck.

    That having been said, this is not unlike things that have been done across party lines. It's foolish to say that Democrats should never be allowed in power because of this, when republicans (and democrats) screw up all the time too.
    Last edited by Midwest Lib; 09-25-09 at 02:58 AM.

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    Re: Senate Democrats Vote Unanimously To Destroy American Farmers, America’s Foodsupp

    for environmental reasons (smelt fish), the feds have restricted the water supply to the greatest growing region on earth, stretching from bakersfield to redding, 150 miles north of sacto

    unemployment in the region is in some places approaching 40%

    http://www.centralvalleybusinesstime.../001/?ID=12871

    many of the most victimized are hispanics

    difi voted this week against a measure introduced by jim demint to turn the water back on

    comedian paul rodriquez is the area's most prominent spokesperson and the leader of the latino water coalition

    Senate rejects measure to turn California water on - The Back Story - Washington Times

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    Re: Senate Democrats Vote Unanimously To Destroy American Farmers, America’s Foodsupp

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    Thank you, that video was actually much more respectful than that article and more articulate. While I don't like Hannity, it did at least give a little time to the NRDC to give their side. Without researching more, I can't say which would cause more damage to California, though I do feel for the people in this region and wish them luck.
    What's the benefit of restricting water use to save these fish?

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    Re: Senate Democrats Vote Unanimously To Destroy American Farmers, America’s Foodsupp

    Nevermind the rediculously biased source.

    Nevermind that this is the third consecutive year of drought there.

    Nevermind the restrictions were put in place in 2007.

    Nevermind this was before Obama was in office

    Nevermind that it was by court order, and not legislated by the current congressional scapegoats, nor Obama.

    On August 31, 2007, California Federal Judge Oliver Wanger of Federal District Court protected the rare declining fish delta smelt by severely curtailing human use water deliveries at San Joaquin-Sacramento River delta from December to June.[2] These are the pumps at the Banks Pumping Plant that send water to Central and Southern California for agricultural and residential use.
    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_smelt]Delta smelt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]


    nevermind a few salient tidbits from the unemployment data:

    • For Mendota, the town portrayed as the worst and where the Governor has visited twice to rail against the Endangered Species Act and his claim of regulation caused unemployment, it shows 38.8% unemployment for May 2009.

    • For Mendota, the 9 year previous average is 28.1%. Mendota has led Fresno County in unemployment for the past 10 years.

    • Six of the seven counties with greater unemployment than Fresno are not heavily affected by the Central Valley Project water cutbacks - and many are able to compensate via groundwater and use cutbacks.
    nevermind that Lester Snow - appointed as director of the California Department of Water Resources by Arnie back in 2004 - testified before congress:

    essentially saying if there was no court order to protect fish, there would only be a 5% increase in CVP water to the San Joaquin Valley.
    http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/200...4/18603781.php

    nevermind that

    the Bureau of Reclamation is preparing now to ship 40,000 acre-feet of Central Valley Project water to Southern California – swimming pools and golf courses
    nevermind this is but one of multiple sources of water that the valley relies on

    nevermind that is but a tidbit of information out there on the subject, and instead of taking what is spoon-fed to you at face value (especially when as clearly biased as that) that if something is troubling you should dig a bit more into the story.

    nevermind that this issue goes way beyond one little fishy.

    nevermind any of that- we need a scapegoat - its all congress and Obamas fault.. all three consecutive years of drought.

    nevermind any of that.. the solution if we want to go the idiocracy route is Brawndo!! its got electrolytes!!!
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    Re: Senate Democrats Vote Unanimously To Destroy American Farmers, America’s Foodsupp

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    What's the benefit of restricting water use to save these fish?
    Water Shortage Wilts Calif.'s San Joaquin Valley | Newsweek National News | Newsweek.com

    But Barry Nelson, the Natural Resources Defense Council advocate behind the fish lawsuits, says the fish vs. people argument is nonsense. Even after three years of drought, the Central Valley Project (CVP) is still making half of its water deliveries to farms in the valley. Westlands just isn't getting that water. "There's a myth in the valley about the delta smelt, and it's really a tragedy," he says. "I don't mean for a moment to suggest that those small communities on the west side aren't seeing impacts; they are. They're seeing the impact of drought, and those impacts are real and they're hard." Nelson contends that the fish aren't the problem; it's the way the system is set up. Just adjacent to Westlands, he says, four other contractors are getting a full 100 percent of their water allocation this year, despite the drought. And while Westlands has adopted some of the most water-efficient irrigation methods in the business, other farmers in the valley with senior water rights are under no pressure to conserve. The result is a patchwork valley, where a Westlands farmer like Mark Borba is forced to fallow land while his neighbor has excess water that he can sell at a hefty profit. Buying that excess and pumping water from underground is sustainable to a point, says Borba. But the expenses—and the poor quality of the underground water—would drive the business into the ground in the long term.
    Very good article, actually shows both sides of the story quite well and show that there is more than is shown in the news report and the OP. It shows that there is and has been quite a struggle in resource management between northern and southern California, and is being exacerbated by a three year long drought. On top of that, shows that it's not "all about the fish" as the OP and video state. It's a bad situation, but it's not as simple as "let's cut off the farmers to save the fish" In fact, it's more about keeping an ecosystem in place that is trying to balance both agriculture and marine life (mainly salmon).

    Again, this is a really tricky situation as it would involve and effect a lot of people on both sides of the issue, but I don't think it's as heartless as it is being made to seem.
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    Re: Senate Democrats Vote Unanimously To Destroy American Farmers, America’s Foodsupp

    Not to mention the CVP was enacted in 92 and was supported by Pres Bush...but yeah, the Senate and Obama are trying to destroy the world and put everyone out of work

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