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    Re: Senate Democrats Vote Unanimously To Destroy American Farmers, America’s Foodsupp

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    Wow, ridiculously partisan source and article. Half the article is just comparing the current administration to Communism and Marxism. There may be a little true content, but it's so ridiculously drowned in partisan hackery that one can't even concentrate on the what the article is supposed to be about.
    The Democrats voted against turning the water back on in America's breadbasket which is experiencing a dust bowl, because of the Delta Smelt. Those are the facts and that was the first article I found which is actually discussing the issue. Gee, I wonder why that is?

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    Re: Senate Democrats Vote Unanimously To Destroy American Farmers, America’s Foodsupp

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    Thank you, that video was actually much more respectful than that article and more articulate. While I don't like Hannity, it did at least give a little time to the NRDC to give their side. Without researching more, I can't say which would cause more damage to California, though I do feel for the people in this region and wish them luck.

    That having been said, this is not unlike things that have been done across party lines. It's foolish to say that Democrats should never be allowed in power because of this, when republicans (and democrats) screw up all the time too.
    You are welcome. I try and post the facts, no matter who the messenger is.

    As for my comment about democrats not being allowed to come to power again, I base that on much, much, more than this issue. This issue simply demonstrates one of the biggest problems I have with the democrats and the liberal agenda.

    They all too often will support or implement "feel good", "compassionate" or "we care about the (fill in the blank)", type of policies that cater to small interest groups, that cause financial hardship for the American people. This issue is a prime example of this. An agenda that puts a piece of bait ahead of thousands of farmers and their families (not to mention the cost to everyone at the market), is just plain wrong. The American people should never be made to suffer over something like this.

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    Re: Senate Democrats Vote Unanimously To Destroy American Farmers, America’s Foodsupp

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    Re: Senate Democrats Vote Unanimously To Destroy American Farmers, America’s Foodsupp

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    Nevermind the rediculously biased source.

    Nevermind that this is the third consecutive year of drought there.

    Nevermind the restrictions were put in place in 2007.

    Nevermind this was before Obama was in office

    Nevermind that it was by court order, and not legislated by the current congressional scapegoats, nor Obama.



    Delta smelt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    nevermind a few salient tidbits from the unemployment data:



    nevermind that Lester Snow - appointed as director of the California Department of Water Resources by Arnie back in 2004 - testified before congress:



    Secretary Salazar to Speak at Town Meeting on Drought in Fresno : Indybay

    nevermind that



    nevermind this is but one of multiple sources of water that the valley relies on

    nevermind that is but a tidbit of information out there on the subject, and instead of taking what is spoon-fed to you at face value (especially when as clearly biased as that) that if something is troubling you should dig a bit more into the story.

    nevermind that this issue goes way beyond one little fishy.

    nevermind any of that- we need a scapegoat - its all congress and Obamas fault.. all three consecutive years of drought.

    nevermind any of that.. the solution if we want to go the idiocracy route is Brawndo!! its got electrolytes!!!
    Never mind that the Democrats unanimously voted NOT to turn the water back on in America's bread basket because of the delta smelt. But ya it is straight out of idiocracy. Hmm maybe if we put toilet water on the crops the dust bowl might go away? Nah.

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    Re: Senate Democrats Vote Unanimously To Destroy American Farmers, America’s Foodsupp

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    The Democrats voted against turning the water back on in America's breadbasket
    America's breadbasket is not California. Do you need a geography lesson?

    which is experiencing a dust bowl, because of the Delta Smelt.
    Here's a real simple Government lesson. There's the legislative branch, the executive branch and the judicial branch.

    Can you name which branch issues "court orders" for 500 points?

    Those are the facts and that was the first article I found which is actually discussing the issue. Gee, I wonder why that is?
    Some world you live in if you consider those "facts."
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    Re: Senate Democrats Vote Unanimously To Destroy American Farmers, America’s Foodsupp

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    Not to mention the CVP was enacted in 92 and was supported by Pres Bush...but yeah, the Senate and Obama are trying to destroy the world and put everyone out of work
    Who voted unanimously not to turn the water on?

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    Re: Senate Democrats Vote Unanimously To Destroy American Farmers, America’s Foodsupp

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    The Democrats voted against turning the water back on in America's breadbasket which is experiencing a dust bowl, because of the Delta Smelt. Those are the facts and that was the first article I found which is actually discussing the issue. Gee, I wonder why that is?
    That is what Hannity and your article say, yes...but do me a favor and read in entirety the article that I posted, from a credible news source. I have no problem if, after you have read it, hold a different opinion than me, but try to get a grasp on the fact that the situation isn't as simple as man vs fish. It's about allocation of resources and is far more complicated than an endangered fish.

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    Re: Senate Democrats Vote Unanimously To Destroy American Farmers, America’s Foodsupp

    Anyone else see the lack of wisdom of growing populations in exceptionally arid regions?

    I'd still like to see how this is the Obama/Senate democrat's fault when the court issued the order.

    Or maybe Ferris doesn't understand the branches of government? Wouldn't be the first person to screw that up.
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    Re: Senate Democrats Vote Unanimously To Destroy American Farmers, America’s Foodsupp

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    America's breadbasket is not California. Do you need a geography lesson?
    The Central Valley is America's bread basket.


    Agriculture

    The Central Valley is one of the world's most productive agricultural regions. On less than 1 percent of the total farmland in the United States, the Central Valley produces 8 percent of the nation’s agricultural output by value: 17 billion USD in 2002. Its agricultural productivity relies on irrigation from both surface water diversions and groundwater pumping from wells. About one-sixth of the irrigated land in the U.S. is in the Central Valley.[15]

    Virtually all non-tropical crops are grown in the Central Valley, which is the primary source for a number of food products throughout the United States, including tomatoes, almonds,[16][17] grapes, cotton, apricots, and asparagus.

    Four of the top five counties in agricultural sales in the U.S. are in the Central Valley (2002 Data). They are Fresno County (#1 with $2.759 billion in sales), Tulare County (#2 with $2.338 billion), Kern County (#4 with $2.058), and Merced County (#5 with $2.058 billion).[1] 2002 Data Sets

    Early farming was concentrated close to the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta, where the water table was high year round and water transport more readily available, but subsequent irrigation projects have brought many more parts of the valley into productive use. For example, the Central Valley Project was formed in 1935 to redistribute and store water for agricultural and municipal purposes with dams and canals. The even larger California State Water Project was formed in the 1950s and construction continued throughout the following decade.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central...29#Agriculture
    Here's a real simple Government lesson. There's the legislative branch, the executive branch and the judicial branch.

    Can you name which branch issues "court orders" for 500 points?
    Can you name the branch which voted against the legislation to turn the water back on?


    Some world you live in if you consider those "facts."
    The water was turned off because of the delta smelt. The democrats voted against the legislation to turn the water back on. Which of those two statements are false?
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    Re: Senate Democrats Vote Unanimously To Destroy American Farmers, America’s Foodsupp

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Never mind that the Democrats unanimously voted NOT to turn the water back on in America's bread basket because of the delta smelt. But ya it is straight out of idiocracy. Hmm maybe if we put toilet water on the crops the dust bowl might go away? Nah.
    And nevermind that this is a liberal/democratic policy, as demonstrated by who sides with the bait fish, and who side with the 1000's of people suffering as a result of this policy.

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