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    Re: Is Extremism Becoming Mainstream?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    [...] I think most people vote for the person they prefer.
    So if you were to take a poll before the primaries letting people list and rank their top picks for president, 69,297,997 people would have picked Obama as their #1 choice? C'mon... He'd rank below Elmer Fudd!


    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Bull****. People who cannot be bothered to vote are neither smart, nor of any real use to this country.
    No, the people who don't want to dignify your rigged democratic circus with 10 minutes of their time are acting rationally. You aren't.

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    Re: Is Extremism Becoming Mainstream?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Libman View Post
    So if you were to take a poll before the primaries letting people list and rank their top picks for president, 69,297,997 people would have picked Obama as their #1 choice? C'mon... He'd rank below Elmer Fudd!
    Let me try and explain this simple concept to you, since either you are dishonest, or you are not bright enough to comprehend. I used a word, "most". It means that a majority of people voted their preference, not that all did.


    No, the people who don't want to dignify your rigged democratic circus with 10 minutes of their time are acting rationally. You aren't.
    That is a pretty serious accusation...if you can prove it. You have evidence that the election system is rigged(note this is not the same thing as certain precincts having voter fraud issues)? I am waiting to see what paranoid fantasy you come up with for this.

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    Re: Is Extremism Becoming Mainstream?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Only 59% of Americans say confidently that they think Barack Obama was born in the country while 23% think he was not, and 18% are unsure.
    Only 59% of Americans believe our president was born here... That's pretty scary and embarrassing at the same time.

    Who have the 23% been listening to?

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    Re: Is Extremism Becoming Mainstream?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Let me try and explain this simple concept to you, since either you are dishonest, or you are not bright enough to comprehend. I used a word, "most". It means that a majority of people voted their preference, not that all did.
    And I have ridiculed your claim, pointing out that people have very limited choices in selecting their government figureheads, and no substantive control over what those figureheads do after they are elected.


    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is a pretty serious accusation...if you can prove it. You have evidence that the election system is rigged(note this is not the same thing as certain precincts having voter fraud issues)? I am waiting to see what paranoid fantasy you come up with for this.
    Whether it is rigged on a functional level is irrelevant - the system is inherently violent and irrational, and thus I refuse to justify it with my participation.



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    Re: Is Extremism Becoming Mainstream?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    DP is a metaphor for the country. Check out the amount of extremists here, and you will suddenly discover that those who do not have far right or far left views are becoming a minority.
    I certainly concur with your second statement, but I might point out by way of your first that those who post here do not represent a valid statistical sampling. Only those who are motivated to talk politics post here in the first place, so by very nature the system selects for zealotry.
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    Re: Is Extremism Becoming Mainstream?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Libman View Post
    And I have ridiculed your claim, pointing out that people have very limited choices in selecting their government figureheads, and no substantive control over what those figureheads do after they are elected.
    The requirements to run are not that difficult to achieve. Over 100 people run each presidential election.




    Whether it is rigged on a functional level is irrelevant - the system is inherently violent and irrational, and thus I refuse to justify it with my participation.
    So where is this history of election violence? How is taking part in the process to chose the people who lead the country, the sate, the local area irrational? It's not. People who make excuses for their own laziness and apathy are the irrational ones.

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    Re: Is Extremism Becoming Mainstream?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Possible, but not likely. I think most people vote for the person they prefer.
    Right, because people usually prefer the lesser of two evils.
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    Re: Is Extremism Becoming Mainstream?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So where is this history of election violence? How is taking part in the process to chose the people who lead the country, the sate, the local area irrational? It's not. People who make excuses for their own laziness and apathy are the irrational ones.
    I believe Alex's point is that the election is a charade. Bush(a Republican) set the precedent for massive spending and Obama(a Democrat) is doing his part by perpetuating it. The fact that you see a large difference between the ideologies of "Republicans" and "Democrats" is amusing to me.
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    Re: Is Extremism Becoming Mainstream?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    I believe Alex's point is that the election is a charade. Bush(a Republican) set the precedent for massive spending and Obama(a Democrat) is doing his part by perpetuating it. The fact that you see a large difference between the ideologies of "Republicans" and "Democrats" is amusing to me.
    Spending money is not violent, nor is it fraud. Are you saying that Alex is just using way over the top hyperbole?

    When you are part of an extreme fringe, then I suppose that those more mainstream philosophies will seem alike, but that is simply because you are on the fringe. Those of us with more mainstream views can see clear differences between the policies advocated and enacted by republicans and democrats.

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    Re: Is Extremism Becoming Mainstream?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Spending money is not violent, nor is it fraud. Are you saying that Alex is just using way over the top hyperbole?
    I don't know, he'll have to answer that one himself.

    When you are part of an extreme fringe, then I suppose that those more mainstream philosophies will seem alike, but that is simply because you are on the fringe. Those of us with more mainstream views can see clear differences between the policies advocated and enacted by republicans and democrats.
    I do not think it is a good thing that you can "see clear differences". Just means you took the bait.
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