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    Americans Think Health Bill's True Cost Will Hurt Them

    Good because the truth is that it will hurt us and do no good.

    Fifty-six percent said they are not confident the Obama administration can cover the government's increased tab for health care by wringing savings out of Medicare and other government-financed health programs. Forty-three percent say they are confident the government can cover its health bills this way.
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    Re: Americans Think Health Bill's True Cost Will Hurt Them

    hevydriver give it a trial m8 for a while and see what happens about Health Bill's, it might work from state to state,thats the only way to know what is good for America,why not,if it does not work, well you have tried your best
    for the people,great people at that.

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    Re: Americans Think Health Bill's True Cost Will Hurt Them

    Seventy-three percent said they would oppose a plan that would cause higher taxes on the middle class.

    Seventy-eight percent said they would oppose it if the middle class has to pay more for health care.

    Eighty-four percent said they would oppose it if access to doctors or treatments became more restrictive.

    Eighty-five percent would oppose it if quality of health care for the middle class declined.
    ... those are all contingent. Meaning, they are responses to hypothetical questions.

    You do know that, right? RIGHT?!
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    Re: Americans Think Health Bill's True Cost Will Hurt Them

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeey View Post
    hevydriver give it a trial m8 for a while and see what happens about Health Bill's, it might work from state to state,thats the only way to know what is good for America,why not,if it does not work, well you have tried your best
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    Re: Americans Think Health Bill's True Cost Will Hurt Them

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    I have my own health insurance thank you. Its not my job to pay for someone else's nor its anyone else's job to pay for mine.
    Of course it is, if that is the most constructive policy a republic can have. Unless the sentiment that people should go without care is sustainable perpetually as the publicly prevailing attitude (meaning, most voters must always believe that people should die or suffer from crippling illnesses if they don't have insurance, and that is preferable to a tax which would cover them), then it is inevitable that the government will pay. Since that is the case, then our government is always going to pay, and because the government must pay, the tax payers must pay as well. Since that is the case, we ought to have the most efficient system possible, which would mean developing a formal and concrete procedures for covering the expenses.

    Simple logic, really.
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    Re: Americans Think Health Bill's True Cost Will Hurt Them

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeey View Post
    hevydriver give it a trial m8 for a while and see what happens about Health Bill's, it might work from state to state,thats the only way to know what is good for America,why not,if it does not work, well you have tried your best
    for the people,great people at that.

    All the best to u m8

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    Re: Americans Think Health Bill's True Cost Will Hurt Them

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Of course it is, if that is the most constructive policy a republic can have. Unless the sentiment that people should go without care is sustainable perpetually as the publicly prevailing attitude (meaning, most voters must always believe that people should die or suffer from crippling illnesses if they don't have insurance, and that is preferable to a tax which would cover them), then it is inevitable that the government will pay. Since that is the case, then our government is always going to pay, and because the government must pay, the tax payers must pay as well. Since that is the case, we ought to have the most efficient system possible, which would mean developing a formal and concrete procedures for covering the expenses.

    Simple logic, really.
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    Re: Americans Think Health Bill's True Cost Will Hurt Them

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Of course it is, if that is the most constructive policy a republic can have. Unless the sentiment that people should go without care is sustainable perpetually as the publicly prevailing attitude (meaning, most voters must always believe that people should die or suffer from crippling illnesses if they don't have insurance, and that is preferable to a tax which would cover them), then it is inevitable that the government will pay. Since that is the case, then our government is always going to pay, and because the government must pay, the tax payers must pay as well. Since that is the case, we ought to have the most efficient system possible, which would mean developing a formal and concrete procedures for covering the expenses.

    Simple logic, really.
    Well said. Not sure logic will work with some on the opposing side.
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    Re: Americans Think Health Bill's True Cost Will Hurt Them

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    Well said. Not sure logic will work with some on the opposing side.
    No, il-logic will not.
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    Re: Americans Think Health Bill's True Cost Will Hurt Them

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Trying to muddle the meaning of a republic? Don't try to make it socialism, because it isn't nor is it the intent of the founding of this nation. Stop mooching off other people, take care of your own ****.
    Call it what you want. Every republic in history has maintained a welfare state at some time or another, including the Ancient Romans with their land re-distribution and housing policies. Not surprising when you consider the detrimental effects of mass poverty on social order and broader economic prosperity. It simply isn't worth swallowing the expense.
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