Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 14

Thread: Kennedy Successor Could Come Next Week Legislative leaders in Massachusetts "believe

  1. #1
    Sage
    jackalope's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Seen
    08-08-14 @ 01:54 PM
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    6,494

    Kennedy Successor Could Come Next Week Legislative leaders in Massachusetts "believe

    Kennedy Successor Could Come Next Week

    Legislative leaders in Massachusetts "believe they have narrow majorities in both chambers to give Gov. Deval Patrick (D) the power to appoint an interim U.S. senator, in a sign that the controversial measure may pass," the Boston Globe reports.

    "Patrick has signaled privately that he'd like to sign the bill by Friday and make an appointment within days, possibly having an interim senator in place by next week."

    Kennedy Successor Could Come Next Week -- Political Wire

    Democrats need that vote, that's for damn sure. I wonder who it will be? I've heard Dukakis mentioned a few times.

  2. #2
    Sage
    Taylor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    US
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:29 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    6,170

    Re: Kennedy Successor Could Come Next Week Legislative leaders in Massachusetts "beli

    Party politics at its worst... when the rules don't suit you, change them! If the governor is a republican, make it illegal. If the governor is a democrat, change it back!

  3. #3
    Guru
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Northeast
    Last Seen
    11-03-11 @ 08:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    2,834

    Re: Kennedy Successor Could Come Next Week Legislative leaders in Massachusetts "beli

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Party politics at its worst... when the rules don't suit you, change them! If the governor is a republican, make it illegal. If the governor is a democrat, change it back!
    Sounds pretty standard stuff here both parties do this. I remember republicans were close to using the "nuclear option" to end the filibuster but then they lost control of congress

  4. #4
    Girthless
    RightinNYC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    New York, NY
    Last Seen
    01-23-11 @ 11:56 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    25,894

    Re: Kennedy Successor Could Come Next Week Legislative leaders in Massachusetts "beli

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Sounds pretty standard stuff here both parties do this. I remember republicans were close to using the "nuclear option" to end the filibuster but then they lost control of congress
    And if they had, I can guarantee you than 95% of the people supporting this bill would have been complaining about that.

    Rather than simply saying "oh well, just politics, go for it," why don't we actually call our parties out when they do stupid and undemocratic **** like this?
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

  5. #5
    Sage
    jackalope's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Seen
    08-08-14 @ 01:54 PM
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    6,494

    Re: Kennedy Successor Could Come Next Week Legislative leaders in Massachusetts "beli

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    And if they had, I can guarantee you than 95% of the people supporting this bill would have been complaining about that.

    Rather than simply saying "oh well, just politics, go for it," why don't we actually call our parties out when they do stupid and undemocratic **** like this?
    I called them out for the change in '04 - that was purely political.
    This one is how it should be. An election to let the people choose, with a temporary appt in the interim.

    No question, they were playing politics in '04.

  6. #6
    Guru
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Northeast
    Last Seen
    11-03-11 @ 08:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    2,834

    Re: Kennedy Successor Could Come Next Week Legislative leaders in Massachusetts "beli

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    I called them out for the change in '04 - that was purely political.
    This one is how it should be. An election to let the people choose, with a temporary appt in the interim.

    No question, they were playing politics in '04.
    Well I think senators should all have special elections its what we do for the house. Or maybe have the state legislature or something vote on it and not put it in the hands of one person

  7. #7
    Tavern Bartender
    Constitutionalist
    American's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Virginia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    76,306

    Re: Kennedy Successor Could Come Next Week Legislative leaders in Massachusetts "beli

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    And if they had, I can guarantee you than 95% of the people supporting this bill would have been complaining about that.

    Rather than simply saying "oh well, just politics, go for it," why don't we actually call our parties out when they do stupid and undemocratic **** like this?
    Because his side benefits from unethical acts.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

  8. #8
    Global Moderator
    Moderator

    Zyphlin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    NoMoAuchie
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    47,984

    Re: Kennedy Successor Could Come Next Week Legislative leaders in Massachusetts "beli

    I actually think this is a better law for the people. Get someone into the seat quick so they at least have some representation and then have a special election in short order. I also think the person appointed to the seat should be mandated to be a member of the party that the person that died was.

    That said...

    I do find it incredibly "Politics as Usual" and extremely hackey for them to do this, as I have absolutely zero belief they're doing it "for the good of the people" or because its how the rules best serve the state, but purely because of politics. That's evident due to the pathetic change they did in 2004.

    That said, their incredibly ****ty, dishonest, and rather pathetic motives doesn't change the fact that this is a good change.

  9. #9
    pirate lover
    liblady's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    St Thomas, VI
    Last Seen
    03-14-16 @ 03:55 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    16,165
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Kennedy Successor Could Come Next Week Legislative leaders in Massachusetts "beli

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Democrats need that vote, that's for damn sure. I wonder who it will be? I've heard Dukakis mentioned a few times.
    this is unfortunate to say the least. dems need to leave this alone.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


  10. #10
    Advisor Don't Tase Me Bro's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    11-22-09 @ 08:11 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    446

    Re: Kennedy Successor Could Come Next Week Legislative leaders in Massachusetts "beli

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    I called them out for the change in '04 - that was purely political.
    This one is how it should be. An election to let the people choose, with a temporary appt in the interim.

    No question, they were playing politics in '04.
    No question they're playing politics now.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •