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    Re: A new study finds that a majority of physicians support the creation of a public

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    And how does this support your earlier statement that 30-40% of costs associated with private health insurance are administrative?

    I suggest you re-read the article.

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    Re: A new study finds that a majority of physicians support the creation of a public

    Wow...MG, just re-read the quote you posted and you'll see what I'm talking about. Read it very carefully.

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    Re: A new study finds that a majority of physicians support the creation of a public

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    And how does this support your earlier statement that 30-40% of costs associated with private health insurance are administrative?

    I suggest you re-read the article.
    Not sure what you mean, so please point out what I'm missing.
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    Re: A new study finds that a majority of physicians support the creation of a public

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Not sure what you mean, so please point out what I'm missing.
    But of course, madam...

    From your previous quote:

    Canada’s national health insurance program had overhead of 1.3 percent; the overhead among Canada’s private insurers was higher than that in the United States (13.2 percent vs. 11.7 percent).
    Another quote, per your source:

    In 1999 U.S. private insurers retained $46.9 billion of the $401.2 billion they collected in premiums. Their average overhead (11.7 percent) exceeded that of Medicare (3.6 percent) and Medicaid (6.8 percent). Overall, public and private insurance overhead totaled $72.0 billion — 5.9 percent of the total health care expenditures in the United States, or $259 per capita (Table 1).
    Administrative costs for private health insurers are 11.7%, not 30-40%, as you had previously claimed. The 31% figure you cited was the combined administrative costs across the entire American health spectrum.

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    Re: A new study finds that a majority of physicians support the creation of a public

    I'd actually comment but as always Right does an amazing job of blowing idiotic polls out of the water and showing hypocracy of those that desperately cling to such things. I've got nothing more to add besides "what he said"

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    mad Re: A new study finds that a majority of physicians support the creation of a public

    why would they support it that is not true if this passes I will change my major this is no point in going to school for 8 years if you dont get paid well for it

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    Re: A new study finds that a majority of physicians support the creation of a public

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I'd actually comment but as always Right does an amazing job of blowing idiotic polls out of the water and showing hypocracy of those that desperately cling to such things. I've got nothing more to add besides "what he said"
    That's because he got a good education.

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    Re: A new study finds that a majority of physicians support the creation of a public

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I'd actually comment but as always Right does an amazing job of blowing idiotic polls out of the water and showing hypocracy of those that desperately cling to such things. I've got nothing more to add besides "what he said"

    He actually did a terrible job. He made a (false) ad hominem attack, then focused on point 1 - which Nate Silver said was unusual, but not the reason not to trust the poll - and ignored the very real continuing points, including the failure to disclose methodology, which would help in evaluating whether pt 1 was important.

    As usual, the right dismisses based on politics of personal destruction (he's a partisan hack!) and not on substance.

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    Re: A new study finds that a majority of physicians support the creation of a public

    Quote Originally Posted by Coolguy View Post
    More disagreement.
    Half of doctors will quit if Congress passes this bill? Obviously contrived statistics are obvious.

    I really don't think so. They kind of need their jobs for, you know, money, and even if this plan was the worst thing ever, they would still be getting money from somewhere.

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    Re: A new study finds that a majority of physicians support the creation of a public

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    This doesn't surprise me at all. So, the majority of the public wants a public option, the majority of doctors want a public option, but the right and the insurance industry doesn't?

    Why are we listening to them again?
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    And an unbiased survey (come on, if it's from Huffpo...).... of real Doctors!!!!

    Two of every three practicing physicians oppose the medical overhaul plan under consideration in Washington, and hundreds of thousands would think about shutting down their practices or retiring early if it were adopted, a new IBD/TIPP Poll has found.

    The poll contradicts the claims of not only the White House, but also doctors' own lobby — the powerful American Medical Association — both of which suggest the medical profession is behind the proposed overhaul.

    It also calls into question whether an overhaul is even doable; 72% of the doctors polled disagree with the administration's claim that the government can cover 47 million more people with better-quality care at lower cost.

    The IBD/TIPP Poll was conducted by mail the past two weeks, with 1,376 practicing physicians chosen randomly throughout the country taking part. Responses are still coming in, and doctors' positions on related topics — including the impact of an overhaul on senior care, medical school applications and drug development — will be covered later in this series.
    Investors.com - 45% Of Doctors Would Consider Quitting If Congress Passes Health Care Overhaul

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