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P/N said:
The "too poor" or "can't afford public transportation" schtick is really, really lame. I think you mean "too lazy" don't you? I mean, if they can make it out to vote on election day, can't they make it out one other day of the freaking year to get an ID? Maybe instead of funding groups like ACORN (who is the main culprit behind voter registration and voter fraud in the first place), we subsidize the poor and pay for their ID card with our taxpayer money? Nah, that would be too simple and pretty much close the door on voter fraud. :roll:
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It's not lame; it's real. Courts have upheld ID requirments, but only in states where the state provided free IDs to those who couldn't afford them, I thought.

Wasn't that one of the reasons Missouri's was struck down? The court upheld Indiana's ID law, but IN provides free IDs:


"Courts have upheld voter ID laws in Arizona, Georgia and Michigan, but struck down Missouri's. Monday's decision comes a week before Indiana's presidential primary."
Supreme Court upholds voter ID law - Politics- msnbc.com
 
P/N said:
Absent from what, civilization? I live in the deep south. These folks have to go out to register for food stamps and re-register for it. They can't just "mail it in", they have to show up in person. So how is it they can do that, but can't get out to get an ID card? They have to have an ID card in order to get food stamps. You're using circular reasoning here instead of common sense. Try common sense, it might just show you the error of your logic.
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The ones who don't have it, don't get the benefits. I was just reading an article the other day about documentation causing harm to citizens who didn't have it. (Sorry no link, I don't have the article handy)
 
PogueMoran said:
Never heard of absentee balloting? Car pools that are organized for election day. Again you're talking about the possible disenfranchisement of tens of thousands who may live in very remote areas, are poor or elderly for a virtually nonexistent voter fraud problem
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I've never heard cases of false voter registrations actually being able to vote. Just ones that bunches of false registrations were rejected b/c of fraud.

Wait, there was the Ann Coulter voter fraud case - FL and NY voting.
 
PogueMoran said:
No I mean extremely poor and elderly. There are many states down south where people may live in the same area for generations without moving. Remote backwater whatever you want to call it. Transportation is hard and they may not be able to afford an ID. Some don't even have a drivers license. So you're speaking of punishing those for a very small minute unprovable amount. Do you have any proof that any actual registrations by acorn have lead to voter fraud or are you speculating again?

Again you're talking about the possible disenfranchisement of as much as tens of thousands of voters for about a possible hundred voter fraud cases over decades. Doesn't seem cost effective. Also without subsidizing ID cards you're talking about a poll tax.
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I bet when they get that welfare check in the mail, they don't have a problem getting to the grocery store to spend it. Or, when they wanna get their Obamacare free-bee, they won't be stuck at home with no ride.
 
apdst said:
I bet when they get that welfare check in the mail, they don't have a problem getting to the grocery store to spend it. Or, when they wanna get their Obamacare free-bee, they won't be stuck at home with no ride.
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I bet they do have problems getting to the grocery store. Many are not within walking distance of a grocery store, and public transit is iffy, depending on area.

Access to grocery stores, particularly in inner cities, happens to be a big freaking problem. Shows how attentive you are to the problems of the poor ...


ps - check in the mail? It's not the 80s anymore, dude.
 
jackalope said:
I bet they do have problems getting to the grocery store. Many are not within walking distance of a grocery store, and public transit is iffy, depending on area.

Access to grocery stores, particularly in inner cities, happens to be a big freaking problem. Shows how attentive you are to the problems of the poor ...
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Yeah, nice job of telling that crap. You sound like you know what you're talking about, anyway. I drove a cab for a while and I dropped off and picked many-a-person at the grocery store, the utility company, etc. A 300 pound poor person doesn't have trouble making it to the commisary, trust me.


ps - check in the mail? It's not the 80s anymore, dude.
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Oh, well, never collected welfare, so I don't know.
 
I do know what I'm talking about .... annnnddd you don't.
 
jackalope said:
I do know what I'm talking about .... annnnddd you don't.
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Oh yeah, because you grew up in the rural south? Is that why you're such an expert? Are you even out of high school, yet?
 
apdst said:
Oh yeah, because you grew up in the rural south? Is that why you're such an expert? Are you even out of high school, yet?
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wtf are you talking about?

:wow:
 
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Enough of the baiting. Keep things civil.
 
I did not grow up in the rural south. My example was inner cities, so that's waaayyyy out there. I did not say I was an expert. I did graduate high school.


Catch a clue, dude. There is quite a LARGE problem with access to grocery stores, fresh fruits, and fresh vegetables in our inner cities.
 
apdst said:
I bet when they get that welfare check in the mail, they don't have a problem getting to the grocery store to spend it. Or, when they wanna get their Obamacare free-bee, they won't be stuck at home with no ride.
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Why is that what happens from you? Somehow you think all poor people and elderly people are on welfare. Just shows how out of touch you are with the american people
 
jackalope said:
I did not grow up in the rural south. My example was inner cities, so that's waaayyyy out there. I did not say I was an expert. I did graduate high school.


Catch a clue, dude. There is quite a LARGE problem with access to grocery stores, fresh fruits, and fresh vegetables in our inner cities.
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That's why they got all those fat assed welfare classers sitting on their front porch? Yeah, right.
 
PogueMoran said:
Why is that what happens from you? Somehow you think all poor people and elderly people are on welfare. Just shows how out of touch you are with the american people
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So, young rich people are on welfare? Surely, you jest, sir.:rofl
 
apdst said:
That's why they got all those fat assed welfare classers sitting on their front porch? Yeah, right.
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w - t - f does sitting on a front porch have to do with availability of grocery stores?


:tocktock2
 
jackalope said:
w - t - f does sitting on a front porch have to do with availability of grocery stores?


:tocktock2
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How 'bout you tell us all about what it's like to grow up poor?
 
apdst said:
How 'bout you tell us all about what it's like to grow up poor?
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Um ... why? How 'bout you tell us wtf me growing up poor, me growing up in the rural south, me not graduating high school, people sitting on porches, or any of the last string of your questions have to do with the lack of grocery stores in inner cities?
 
jackalope said:
Um ... why? How 'bout you tell us wtf me growing up poor, me growing up in the rural south, me not graduating high school, people sitting on porches, or any of the last string of your questions have to do with the lack of grocery stores in inner cities?
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Ya'll seem to be experts on it, so you need to give some bonifides. I mean, I grew up in the rural south, I already know the deal, which makes me think you're talking out of your ass.
 
apdst said:
Ya'll seem to be experts on it, so you need to give some bonifides. I mean, I grew up in the rural south, I already know the deal, which makes me think you're talking out of your ass.
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So, in other words, you have no flipping idea what you are talking about, cuz you don't know if grocery stores are easy for poor people in inner cities to get to, or not?
 
Apdst is making no sense whatsoever anymore. I thought it wasn't possible, but it seems he's lost all sense of posting coherent anything.
 
apdst said:
I believe ACORN's days are numbered.
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One can hope... I hear Congress just cut off a handful of their funds, but not all Fed. funds..... yet.
 
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