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    Re: Canadian Gets Life for Driving Drunk

    Quote Originally Posted by Shep Dawg View Post
    I take consideration of punishment fitting the crime. I'm not calling for the same punishment as vehicular homicide caused by one driving drunk. I think fines, and pleas aren't working, and the punishment needs to be harsher to fit the crime. Why wait until some is killed to get harsh? If the punishment isn't already a deterrent, then the punishment needs to be more harsh. It's obvious that the current DUI laws aren't enough of a deterrent for many people. Some people learn, some don't. It's a weak argument that is easily refuted.
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    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Canadian Gets Life for Driving Drunk

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    if the death penalty is not a deterent what makes you think anything lesser will be?"
    You assume I agree that the death penalty is not a deterrent. I don't. I think the lack of actually applying the death penalty in a timely manner when warranted is the reason the deterrent factor is reduced so greatly. Do away with the 15-20 years worth of appeals, and death sentences being commuted to life without parole, and I think we can get a more accurate indication of whether the death penalty is an effective deterrent or not.
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    Re: Canadian Gets Life for Driving Drunk

    In Texas, your first two convictions are misdemeanors. Three or more are felonies, with up to 10 years in prison. On your third felony conviction, the sentence can be 25 years to life in prison.
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    Re: Canadian Gets Life for Driving Drunk

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    In Texas, your first two convictions are misdemeanors. Three or more are felonies, with up to 10 years in prison. On your third felony conviction, the sentence can be 25 years to life in prison.
    Thanks for the post danarhea. It show how laxed the DUI laws are. A misdemeanor for DUI is ridiculous, especially twice.
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    Re: Canadian Gets Life for Driving Drunk

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    video of road side tests
    I failed 2 of the 7 I was given due to neuropathy in my feet and my amputated right great toe.

    I will never again do any tests in any stops. I did not blow, as every attorney has told me, but my poor balance due to injuries/medical conditions caused visuals the DA can take advantage of, and I am not willing to go to jail in an effort to prove myself right.
    I'm sorry but something here just isn't falling in line right with the story. If they didn't give you a breathalyzer than how do they know you were DUI or DWI?

    I have yet to see someone on this charge without being given the breathalyzer at some point to determine the extent they are intoxicated because most states have DUI and DWI limits.

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    Re: Canadian Gets Life for Driving Drunk

    Quote Originally Posted by Shep Dawg View Post
    I take consideration of punishment fitting the crime. I'm not calling for the same punishment as vehicular homicide caused by one driving drunk. I think fines, and pleas aren't working, and the punishment needs to be harsher to fit the crime. Why wait until some is killed to get harsh? If the punishment isn't already a deterrent, then the punishment needs to be more harsh. It's obvious that the current DUI laws aren't enough of a deterrent for many people. Some people learn, some don't. It's a weak argument that is easily refuted.
    I would bet that a majority of people who are arrested for drunk driving learn from their mistakes and never do it again. Yes, some people are repeat offenders, but that's no reason to ruin the lives of the majority that are not.
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    Re: Canadian Gets Life for Driving Drunk

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    I would bet that a majority of people who are arrested for drunk driving learn from their mistakes and never do it again. Yes, some people are repeat offenders, but that's no reason to ruin the lives of the majority that are not.
    That argument can easily be made for most crimes. It's a choice they make. No one is forcing them to drive drunk. I would bet that the majority of people arrested for DUI are already repeat offenders. They just pushed their luck until they were caught. Why don't more people rob banks? Maybe the first offense should be a misdemeanor as well. Of course providing they don't harm anyone in the process. I'm sure once they are caught, they'll learn from their mistakes as well. Of course the 20 year plus prison threat, and the idea of having their lives ruined, is a deterrent for many.
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    Re: Canadian Gets Life for Driving Drunk

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I'm sorry but something here just isn't falling in line right with the story. If they didn't give you a breathalyzer than how do they know you were DUI or DWI?

    I have yet to see someone on this charge without being given the breathalyzer at some point to determine the extent they are intoxicated because most states have DUI and DWI limits.
    I can understand your suspicion
    But I, upon advice of any lawyer I ever knew, never blew. In florida it is an automatic 1 year suspension of DRinving priveliges for not complying with state statute to blow.. It is a revenue genrator

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    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Canadian Gets Life for Driving Drunk

    Quote Originally Posted by Shep Dawg View Post
    Don't drive drunk.
    I do not. Do you also believe that people who shoplift should have their extremities amputated, thus taking away their ability to steal again?
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    Re: Canadian Gets Life for Driving Drunk

    Quote Originally Posted by Shep Dawg View Post
    That argument can easily be made for most crimes. It's a choice they make. No one is forcing them to drive drunk. I would bet that the majority of people arrested for DUI are already repeat offenders. They just pushed their luck until they were caught. Why don't more people rob banks? Maybe the first offense should be a misdemeanor as well. Of course providing they don't harm anyone in the process. I'm sure once they are caught, they'll learn from their mistakes as well. Of course the 20 year plus prison threat, and the idea of having their lives ruined, is a deterrent for many.
    Robbing a bank always harms someone. Even with it being one of the leading causes of motor vehicle accidents, comparatively drunk driving rarely harms anyone. When it does of course they should be punished. But when most drunk drivers are pulled over they are fully capable of driving a vehicle, they are simply over an arbitrary limit placed at .08 just for the hell of it.
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