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Communisum in our Schools.

This story smells of propoganda and myth.

I doubt seriously that there is any validity to this story.

Even if it is true, it is seriously overblown. The headline makes it sound like our schools are being overrun, which is hardly the case.
 
Even if it is true, it is seriously overblown. The headline makes it sound like our schools are being overrun, which is hardly the case.
It's like Red Dawn, except in real life! Only Patrick Swayze can save us! Wolverines!!
 
First off, the story probably is nothing more than a rumor. However, assuming it is true, the problem is that speaking on behalf of middle class parents across this nation, we are tapped out.

I pay property taxes on our home every year for our kids school. However, we also paid 280 dollars a month for our kids to have all day kindergarten instead of a half a day kindergarten. If you are poor, and thus qualified for free or reduced lunches, that was free.

We pay 95 dollars a kid to register them every year. If you are poor, and thus qualify for free or reduced lunches, that is free to you.

We pay hundreds a month for after school care. Its a reduced rate for poor kids that qualify for free or reduced lunches.

We send our kids every day with lunch money or a packed lunch, of course poor kids get their lunch for free.

This in what is literally one of the wealthiest counties in the nation. We are already heavily subsidizing people that have kids that they obviously can't afford in the first place. So I am drawing a line in the sand. We are not buying their school supplies. I am sorry, but if parents cannot afford their kids school supplies when they already get free registration, free all day kindergarten, reduced rates on after school care, and free lunches, then you know, tough, a condom would have been a hell of a lot cheaper than those school supplies.

I hate to be that way, but we are tapped out and I am kind of sick of hearing these same people who have their kids on free lunches and get all this other free stuff spew out all kinds of big ideas they have at every school board or pta meeting. There are lots of great ideas out there when you are spending other peoples money to implement them. Personally, I have a great idea myself, instead of giving the kids from third grade on a tablet PC to take tests with, how about we put that money toward all day kindergarten where middle class families are not stuck shelling out $280 a month on top of their taxes.

Sorry for the rant, but as you can see, I am sick of it.
 
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This was how it was in my elementary school.

Kindergarten through 3rd grade, kids bought supplies and they were all lumped together in a big box. Whenever there was a project, the supplies were handed out and after the project was done, they were returned.

It was that way until 4th grade, then everyone kept their own supplies in their own pencil cases. It worked out since kids understood the concept of sharing by 4th grade and would willingly lend one another a pencil or piece paper when necessary. Of course, there was the occasion of stealing when someone had an especially nice folder or notebook, but such incidents were rare as most kids had the same things since their parents didn't seem to be in the habit of buying particularly expensive school supplies.
 
Haha. This story is more BS from some crazed dispensers of lies. How fun... It's really amazing that people fall for this crap.
 
This was how it was in my elementary school.

Kindergarten through 3rd grade, kids bought supplies and they were all lumped together in a big box. Whenever there was a project, the supplies were handed out and after the project was done, they were returned.

It was that way until 4th grade, then everyone kept their own supplies in their own pencil cases. It worked out since kids understood the concept of sharing by 4th grade and would willingly lend one another a pencil or piece paper when necessary. Of course, there was the occasion of stealing when someone had an especially nice folder or notebook, but such incidents were rare as most kids had the same things since their parents didn't seem to be in the habit of buying particularly expensive school supplies.

Yup, that is the way it is at my wife's school. Much easier to deal with.
 
America should be the 1st then.:lol: Freedom of Choice.:lol: Teachers that Teach,,,instead of Indoctrinate.:lol:

You're on to something Hawchewy. Thanks.:mrgreen:

Your intellectual dishonesty is noticed. :2wave: - And please don't tamper with posters nicknames.
 
Yup, that is the way it is at my wife's school. Much easier to deal with.

So, it's complete BS, but something not appreciably different goes on at your wife's school?
 
I hate Communism with a passion and my family suferred at the hands of filthy invader Russians who brought Communism to the land of my parents. Both of my Grandfathers were sent to Siberia. One for having the insight and ability to own multiplr farms and the other for owning a tailorshop-shoe store-small genaral store in his vllage.

Yet I find it very hard to believe that the story the OP posted could have happened here and if there was one case of that I cannopt beleive that it could have happened more than once. I also have a hard time beleiveing that the school authorities didn't shut that teach down if he/she did pull off such a stunt.

As I said I hate Communist/ and Russians with a passion therefore I get very irritated if someone makes up BS stories and /or calls someone or something Comminist that is not. If anyone if stupid enough to pull of a lying stunt and post BS about some phoney Commmunist I hold that they realize that they are actually supporting and abetting the real Communists becasue whne a real Communist shows up the people will not recognize it.
 
So, it's complete BS, but something not appreciably different goes on at your wife's school?

There is a diference between common school supplies vs. the story of a teacher supposedly putting all the lunch boxes in a pile and haveing he kids take what they want. I am not in agrement with the common school supply scheme either but the OP needs to really provide real proof that all of the lunch boxes were put into a pile and kids taking what they want.

I agree with roadie sounds like BS to me!!!
 
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There is a diference between common school supplies vs. the story of a teacher supposedly putting all the lunch boxes in a pile and haveing he kids take what they want. I am not in agrement with the common school supply scheme either but the OP needs to really provide real proof that all of the lunch boxes were put into a pile and kids taking what they want.

I agree with roadie sounds like BS to me!!!

The "lunch boxes" thing appears to be the only difference, and it was included with all the other school supplies -- which is, as I said, "not appreciably different."
 
The "lunch boxes" thing appears to be the only difference, and it was included with all the other school supplies -- which is, as I said, "not appreciably different."

ok if that is true that the OP made up the lunch box story as you imply it still ruins his credibility!! How can we beleive anything that he says ?
 
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I'll play the part of a Liberal here.:lol: "Massive Paper-Work"? Where's your "feelings" for the Trees?:lol: "Your Son belongs to the Collective", Liberals worry about the Trees.

Get "With the Program".:doh

Take care. Gos.:)

Could have fooled me. I thought you were playing the part of George Bush and "No Child Left Behind".
 
this has been reported by Neal Boortz for years. I started listening to him in 2003 and every september he highlights schools that pull this crap. It happens in alot of places. It may not be 'the standard' or commonplace, yet, but in these dark economic times I see it spreading.

And how does one determine who is in need, and who is too lazy to go to Target, SUC?

Than again you have the added wrinkle of Teachers having to buy supplies for their underfunded classes

this is where reform is needed. And it is more important than HC. Write off the existing adults and spend the money on the Countries Future to make them better prepared to lead the country and the world for many decades to come
 
this has been reported by Neal Boortz for years. I started listening to him in 2003 and every september he highlights schools that pull this crap. It happens in alot of places. It may not be 'the standard' or commonplace, yet, but in these dark economic times I see it spreading.

And how does one determine who is in need, and who is too lazy to go to Target, SUC?

Than again you have the added wrinkle of Teachers having to buy supplies for their underfunded classes

this is where reform is needed. And it is more important than HC. Write off the existing adults and spend the money on the Countries Future to make them better prepared to lead the country and the world for many decades to come

I don't know what you are complaining about since the "education crises" was solved by George W. by the "there ain't be no chilrens be left behind " law.
 
ok if that is true that the OP made up the lunch box story as you imply it still ruins his credibility!! How can we beleive anything that he says ?

How do you know he made it up?
 
This story smells of propoganda and myth.

I doubt seriously that there is any validity to this story.
It's just an urban myth. I doubt seriously anyone would waste their time on intentionally propagating this sort of propaganda.
 
This story smells of propoganda and myth.

I doubt seriously that there is any validity to this story.

Speaking of education I heard that they are almost ready to open the RE-EDUCATION CAMPS on the Steppes of the upper mid West. They also said that they will be marking people with indelible ink on the forehead who will need re-education.
 
Speaking of education I heard that they are almost ready to open the RE-EDUCATION CAMPS on the Steppes of the upper mid West. They also said that they will be marking people with indelible ink on the forehead who will need re-education.
I'm calling dibs on the top bunk, just in case ...
 
belittle it all you want

this story is true
there are many schools who have shopping list
and when those who can, do buy what is needed
the teachers have them put it in teh community pile and it is divided up among the poor disadvantaged

the more honest ones give an individual list of needs for each student, and than there is the list of 'what the school needs to service all the students needs'

but what is wrong with that? afterall it is 'For the Children"

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Do you see the 'if' - "ok if that is true that the OP made up the lunch box story "

Yeah, I saw the "if," but I don't see how it follows -- if WHAT is "true," it proves that the OP made up the lunch box part? And how?
 
belittle it all you want

this story is true
there are many schools who have shopping list
and when those who can, do buy what is needed
the teachers have them put it in teh community pile and it is divided up among the poor disadvantaged

the more honest ones give an individual list of needs for each student, and than there is the list of 'what the school needs to service all the students needs'

but what is wrong with that? afterall it is 'For the Children"

previous sentence for NCFY

That's not close to what the original article realist posted said. He said the supplies were confisgated by the teachers against the parents will. That's a far cry from asking parents to contribute to help needy kids. Its hard to believe a story that doesn't even follow the basic 5 w's of journalism.
 
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