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    Re: Communisum in our Schools.

    Quote Originally Posted by Realist1 View Post
    Both you and Ego "feel" the need to attack me. I Must be doing something right.

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    Re: Communisum in our Schools.

    Quote Originally Posted by Realist1 View Post
    I've NO use for any "variant" of Socialized Theft. Nor, any "Teacher" Stealing from Children.
    I've no use for that. I've simply even less use for your inaccurate references to political economic terminology that have no relation to the confiscatory practice that you describe.

    Quote Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
    So in other words, YOU simply re-define what type of property an individual is allowed to possess and the proclaim that any involuntary confiscation of such property isn't theft as long as it serves the ends of "collective ownership?"
    Was that supposed to be a sound reply? I've made the distinctions between private and possessive property rather clear in the past; private property involves a monopoly of control over a productive resource that permits the "owner" to compel others to perform labor in a hierarchical arrangement under him in order to gain access to that resource, whereas possessive property merely involves personal ownership of items that cannot be used for this purpose. A watch is an example of possessive property; a watch factory is an example of private property. The elimination of private property brings with it the elimination of a major source of labor market coercion, and is thus far less authoritarian than the institution of private property itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Libman View Post
    All forms of forced collectivism are indistinguishable from each-other.
    I haven't referred to forced collectivism; I've referred to collectivism which involves a reduction of force and coercion through the elimination of private property in the manner that was elaborated upon above. Study up.

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    Re: Communisum in our Schools.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    I haven't referred to forced collectivism; I've referred to collectivism which involves a reduction of force and coercion through the elimination of private property in the manner that was elaborated upon above. Study up.
    No, you study up. Human beings exist in an environment of relative scarcity proportional to their desires, and their existence has always depended on their ability to meet their individual material needs. Private property is thus a natural right - civilization beyond the hunter-gatherer level is downright impossible without recognizing it to some degree. Failure to recognize material property rights is indistinguishable from rape, torture, and murder (which are violations of an individual's property rights over one's body)!

    And stop calling yourself libertarian, you're not fooling anyone but yourself.

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    Re: Communisum in our Schools.

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    Prove it. I have never yet seen or heard about any state-level comparison where private schooled and homeschooled children did not come out ahead academically.

    I suppose Podunk USA with one public school and one private school might come out that way on a county-level, but on a larger scale than that I'd have to see the proof.
    Memorial High School Test Scores | Eau Claire, WI | Education.com

    The two private schools in our area did not post test results, but considering that the Public school is above average out of the three...

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    Re: Communisum in our Schools.

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    Memorial High School Test Scores | Eau Claire, WI | Education.com

    The two private schools in our area did not post test results, but considering that the Public school is above average out of the three...
    That's a very limited area, not something I'd generalize from.

    Try this:

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    Re: Communisum in our Schools.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Libman View Post
    Private property is thus a natural right
    Evidently your Rothbardian talking points weren't well-rehearsed. You've failed to account for the distinction between private and possessive property that I've commented on and have said nothing of the coercion permitted through anti-democratic monopolistic control of a productive resource. Not especially "libertarian" or "anarchist" of you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Libman View Post
    And stop calling yourself libertarian, you're not fooling anyone but yourself.
    The term "libertarian" was first coined by the anarcho-communist Joseph Dejacque and has a long and proud history of association with legitimate minarchist and anarchist ideology before its misappropriation and corruption by pseudo-libertarian capitalists. The more accurate term for those authoritarians is "propertarian."

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    Re: Communisum in our Schools.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Have you proven that this happened?
    No more than As a "Natural" reaction to insects buzzing around. And swatting them, when needed.

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    Re: Communisum in our Schools.

    You're thinking of libertarianisme - a French faux amis. In modern English, libertarianism always means economic freedom, which implies very strong individual property rights.

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    Re: Communisum in our Schools.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Evidently your Rothbardian talking points weren't well-rehearsed. You've failed to account for the distinction between private and possessive property that I've commented on and have said nothing of the coercion permitted through anti-democratic monopolistic control of a productive resource. Not especially "libertarian" or "anarchist" of you.



    The term "libertarian" was first coined by the anarcho-communist Joseph Dejacque and has a long and proud history of association with legitimate minarchist and anarchist ideology before its misappropriation and corruption by pseudo-libertarian capitalists. The more accurate term for those authoritarians is "propertarian."
    The Term "anarchist", means to me, a creature to be left in the gutter, with its throat cut. From ear to ear.

    Prove me wrong.
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    Re: Communisum in our Schools.

    You have to keep in mind that Aggie believes there is only one "true" type of anarchism -- his own flavor of it -- and to him, all anarchists must be socialists.
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