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Town Hall Protesters Shout Down Disabled Woman

SouthernDemocrat said:
No I am saying that if you are disabled in a wheelchair about about to be destitute due to your medical bills than you ought to have the right to be heard for 2 fvcking minutes in a town hall with out pieces of sh*t heckling you and shouting you down.

I guess I am naive as I would have thought anyone other than Charles Manson would have thought the same thing.
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Oh yes, because anyone who doesn't think people in wheelchairs are poor wittle weak things that can't stand the rigors of daily interaction must be just like Charles Manson.

Great, let's all move on.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
The video not playing for me, Star ledger sucks, What point should I be watching to see it for myself?



What did you think of the people in the videos I posted. I don't recall your commentary....
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I stated several times that if you any union that shows up at a town hall with the intent of physically intimidating those that disagree with them is obviously a bunch of thugs.

Now, would not agree that anyone that would shout down and heckle someone that was disabled at a town hall and about to be destitute due to their medical bills instead of allowing them two minutes to speak before responding is a piece of sh*t?
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Uhm, you took gentle ribbing and demonstrated you were incapable of handling it. It was my mistake assuming you were one of the rational ones... :shrug:

Anyway, you said I called you a liar.

I never did any such thing.

Quote me calling you a liar, or apologize for your slander.
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You obviously don't understand what slander is. You called what I said a lie in regards to you calling me a basketcase you can go through the threads if you like. It started here

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...ign-holder-md-detained-20.html#post1058200287

Claiming I was lying when I wasn't. Nice try though I thought you were an adult at one time but this continuous garbage from you is getting old. Yeah calling someone a basketcase and then denying you said it sure is a "ribbing". Again are you going to get back on topic or should I talk to you as if you were a two year old?
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
I stated several times that if you any union that shows up at a town hall with the intent of physically intimidating those that disagree with them is obviously a bunch of thugs.

Now, would not agree that anyone that would shout down and heckle someone that was disabled at a town hall and about to be destitute due to their medical bills instead of allowing them two minutes to speak before responding is a piece of sh*t?
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Was she destitute? What part of the video do I need to watch....


I think heckling anyone is far less offensive than assault and out of district union thugs intimidating the constituents. Don't you?
 
jallman said:
Oh yes, because anyone who doesn't think people in wheelchairs are poor wittle weak things that can't stand the rigors of daily interaction must be just like Charles Manson.

Great, let's all move on.
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No one is saying that she is too weak to take it. All I am saying is that its indecent and low to heckle disabled people instead of allowing them a couple of minutes to speak. Obviously, you think its cool to heckle the disabled when you disagree with them.
 
PogueMoran said:
You obviously don't understand what slander is. You called what I said a lie in regards to you calling me a basketcase you can go through the threads if you like. It started here

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...ign-holder-md-detained-20.html#post1058200287

Claiming I was lying when I wasn't. Nice try though I thought you were an adult at one time but this continuous garbage from you is getting old. Yeah calling someone a basketcase and then denying you said it sure is a "ribbing". Again are you going to get back on topic or should I talk to you as if you were a two year old?
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So I never called you a "liar" as you just lied about and claimed I did.


NOTED
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Was she destitute? What part of the video do I need to watch....
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The part where she talks about how she is about to lose her home because of her medical bills.

I think heckling anyone is far less offensive than assault and out of district union thugs intimidating the constituents. Don't you?
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You can defend those scum all you want. However, as the parent of two special needs kids, I can you can you that my response to those pieces of **** would be a hell of a lot more "intimidating" than those union thugs you posted videos of.
 
Just my take on these town meetings but it seems like certain factions a turning them into the equivilent of the WWF. Or at least that is their strategy.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
No one is saying that she is too weak to take it. All I am saying is that its indecent and low to heckle disabled people instead of allowing them a couple of minutes to speak. Obviously, you think its cool to heckle the disabled when you disagree with them.
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No, genius. The point I am making is that it is uncool to heckle anyone. The fact that the woman is disabled is irrelevant. But you would rather keep harping on that point, not out of any genuine feeling of sympathy for the disabled, but rather because constantly stating she is disabled is your subtle form of emotional extortion in the face of the adversity of not being able to defend your real issue: the actual health care plan.
 
Again this topic isn't partisan. These people were shouting down both sides only because they perceived certain people to be intellectual and be their "enemy" even those who opposed reform. So why exactly are you defending them?
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
The part where she talks about how she is about to lose her home because of her medical bills.
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Video is not working for me...


From the "article" (more like an opinion piece of a pro UHC "centrist" :roll:)

"Both sides did their share of yelling"



And yet, we have two people only talking about one side. hmmmm....



You can defend those scum all you want. However, as the parent of two special needs kids, I can you can you that my response to those pieces of **** would be a hell of a lot more "intimidating" than those union thugs you posted videos of.
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So you would commit felony assault on people who heckled some woman in a wheelchair, to defend the honor of your special needs childeren?



How does this make you any better than the "scum" you are railing about? :confused:


Come now you are better than this.
 
PogueMoran said:
Again this topic isn't partisan. These people were shouting down both sides only because they perceived certain people to be intellectual and be their "enemy" even those who opposed reform. So why exactly are you defending them?
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We have another brain child here.

Now read this really slow. Reeeeallllyyyyy sllllllllooooooowwwwww.

No one is defending them. The only thing being done here by us big awful meanies on the right is that we are pointing out how selective the outrage by some of you on the left really is.
 
PogueMoran said:
Saying someone is lying is saying they're a liar.
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You may hold that contention, I sure don't. Sorry. I never called you a "liar" as you claimed, I said your claim was a lie. There is a difference. sorry. :shrug:
 
PogueMoran said:
It was apart of the article. Don't you think shouting down disabled people is even more disrespectful? Would you make fun of someone with downs syndrome? The woman had two auto-immune disorders. I'd say its even more disrespectful to do it to a disabled person
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So now you're comparing someone in a wheelchair to someone with mental disability. You're just so kind. We should all be so lucky to have someone like you looking out for us.
 
jallman said:
We have another brain child here.

Now read this really slow. Reeeeallllyyyyy sllllllllooooooowwwwww.

No one is defending them. The only thing being done here by us big awful meanies on the right is that we are pointing out how selective the outrage by some of you on the left really is.
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Again real slow for the mental midget. What does this have to do with right or left. You're making this partisan I'm not. I'm not on the left they were shouting down people who were on their own side as well because they sounded intellectual. Again you're missing the original point the people doing the shouting have no idea what they're shouting about and are just shouting people down. Its not selective outrage I'm pointing out the ridiculousness of the people at the town hall meeting in Jersey. Can your brain process that?
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
You may hold that contention, I sure don't. Sorry. I never called you a "liar" as you claimed, I said your claim was a lie. There is a difference. sorry. :shrug:
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No you said I was lying and not that my claim was a lie. Now you want to talk symantics about what you actual said. You said I was "lying" not that my "claim was a lie". Saying someone is lying is calling them a liar. Also you might want to look up what the word slander means you keep using it on this board everytime someone calls you out.
 
PogueMoran said:
No you said I was lying and not that my claim was a lie. Now you want to talk symantics about what you actual said. You said I was "lying" not that my "claim was a lie". Saying someone is lying is calling them a liar. Also you might want to look up what the word slander means you keep using it on this board everytime someone calls you out.
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Please quote where I called you a "liar"


Nothing more nothing less....
 
Taylor said:
So now you're comparing someone in a wheelchair to someone with mental disability. You're just so kind. We should all be so lucky to have someone like you looking out for us.
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Oh a person with a disability is a person with a disability. It would be equally as disrespectful. So are you someone with a disability and how would you feel with people shouting you down instead of discussing the topic at hand?
 
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