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    Re: Town Hall Protesters Shout Down Disabled Woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    I wasn't trying to say she did. I apologize if it came out that way. I just meant if someone is rambling endlessly without coming to a point or a question or is just making a fool of themselves with bizzaro accusations, I have no problem with them being shouted down.

    I was at a townhall for Obama in '07 and we had two numbskulls get up and start. One rambled on endlessly about his fight with to get his social security check and the other was just flat out insane talking about aliens and some other whacked out stuff. Thankfully both times Obama cut them short, answered them as diplomatically as possible, and moved on to people who were not utterly insane.



    I don't want to hear an indepth personal sob story. The clip I saw the woman didn't seem anywhere near arriving at a point or a question. When I come to townhall I want to hear people ask questions and voice concerns and then have those questions answered and concerns addressed. I don't want to hear a detailed account everyone's personal tale of woe. She could've simply said, "I have numerous health issues that have put me in a serious financial bind ..." and then moved on to whatever her question was going to be. People's time is valuable and being concise is a lost art to far too many people.

    That said, if the clip is all she said and there is no , then the crowd jumped on her a too early. She was getting to the point where my inner monologue was saying "get to the point" but I also know I can be impatient with folks and certainly wouldn't have jumped up and yelled that out loud. Shouting someone down should be reserved for people who are excrutiatiningly idiotic and refuse to shut up. Townhall meetings and meetings in general are only productive if people can be civil.

    I must say though, that she seemed to fishing for sympathy for her situation, which I find annoying as hell. I can be very sympathetic, but the minute I sense someone is actively trying to get my sympathy, they won't get a drop from me. I just find manipulative and annoying.
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    Re: Town Hall Protesters Shout Down Disabled Woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    So now you're comparing someone in a wheelchair to someone with mental disability. You're just so kind. We should all be so lucky to have someone like you looking out for us.
    No. He is comparing a disabled person to another disabled person. They deserve the same respect we afford people without disabilities and maybe even more considering this bill and the outcome of this debate will affect them more than people who are perfectly healthy. You're being intentionally obtuse. Try some reading comprehension sometime and actually understanding what the person is saying instead of making up your own version of what they are saying.

    None of the people here would heckle a person with down syndrome in 'real life'. It's a simple matter. And yes. We do treat people who have disabilities with kid gloves. ALL THE TIME. We make our schools more accessible to them, we help them across the street, we create special places that cater to their every need. If somebody got into a fight with a guy in a wheel chair or a kid with down syndrome you'd be hard pressed to find anybody who wouldn't step up for them. The same goes for people in wheelchairs. Why? Because of their disabilities. All this bull**** talk about not treating people with disabilities with kid gloves like society doesn't already do it.
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    Re: Town Hall Protesters Shout Down Disabled Woman

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Ok, Jerry is siding with sacks of **** that heckle the disabled at town halls. Duly noted, everyone move on.
    Whatever it takes to stop UHC.

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    Re: Town Hall Protesters Shout Down Disabled Woman

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    It is not fake concern on my part. For personal reasons I just particularly don't like people that shout down the sick, disabled, and handicapped at health care town halls.
    I tend to agree with you, for the very same personal reasons (or, rather, close to the same).
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    Re: Town Hall Protesters Shout Down Disabled Woman

    I could give a crap if the person is in a wheelchair, etc. She was on the wrong side of the issue, and that's all we need to know.

    Pro UHC should be shut down at every opportunity.

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    Re: Town Hall Protesters Shout Down Disabled Woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I could give a crap if the person is in a wheelchair, etc. She was on the wrong side of the issue, and that's all we need to know.

    Pro UHC should be shut down at every opportunity.
    Are you saying that because you disagree with an issue that there should be no further debate on it?

    Would it be accurate for me to say that your participation in a discussion group called Debate Politics is ironic?

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    Re: Town Hall Protesters Shout Down Disabled Woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I could give a crap if the person is in a wheelchair, etc. She was on the wrong side of the issue, and that's all we need to know.

    Pro UHC should be shut down at every opportunity.
    Partisan hackery at its best.

    If you have to rely on "shutting down" your opponents rather than your own well reasoned arguments for why your side is correct, you're probably on the wrong side of the argument.

    And I'm saying this as someone opposed to UHC. But spreading lies, misinformation, and working to "shut down" your opponents are the tactics of someone who doesn't have anything better to offer. If you believe your opponents are wrong, why must you prevent them from speaking? Let them speak and then happily point out their inaccuracies and errors in thinking.
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    Re: Town Hall Protesters Shout Down Disabled Woman

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He walked into the opposing crowd. It's obvious that he was looking for trouble. A little common sense goes alot farther than self control. If the tables were turned, you would say the same thing and you damn well know it.
    Again ridiculous assertion. So if I walk through a line of people waiting for food at a stadium and I'm trying to get to my seats then that's me going looking for trouble? He walked through to get over to the other side. Yes I would say the same if the tables were turned. Just walking through a crowd does not give the crowd the right to assault the guy. What you're talking about isn't common sense and just shows how little restraint your side seems to have

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    Re: Town Hall Protesters Shout Down Disabled Woman

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Again ridiculous assertion. So if I walk through a line of people waiting for food at a stadium and I'm trying to get to my seats then that's me going looking for trouble? He walked through to get over to the other side. Yes I would say the same if the tables were turned. Just walking through a crowd does not give the crowd the right to assault the guy. What you're talking about isn't common sense and just shows how little restraint your side seems to have



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    Re: Town Hall Protesters Shout Down Disabled Woman

    Quote Originally Posted by satandog View Post
    Are you saying that because you disagree with an issue that there should be no further debate on it?

    Would it be accurate for me to say that your participation in a discussion group called Debate Politics is ironic?
    No less ironic than the pro global warming folks

    Fight fire with fire imo.

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