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    Re: BP Makes ‘Giant’ Oil Discovery in Gulf of Mexico

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    Not to mention, that is there's any sugar left in the fuel and the car isn't driven frequently enough, it will cause fouling in the fuel system.
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    Re: BP Makes ‘Giant’ Oil Discovery in Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    The real question about getting off petroleum is in fertilizers and jet fuels.
    Petroleum is not used to make fertilizer.

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    Re: BP Makes ‘Giant’ Oil Discovery in Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Petroleum is not used to make fertilizer.
    Chemical Fertilizers are largely derived from petroleum products.

    Chemical Fertilizers

    Chemical fertilizers (also called inorganic, synthetic, artificial, or manufactured) have been refined to extract nutrients and bind them in specific ratios with other chemical fillers. These products may be made from petroleum products, rocks, or even organic sources. Some of the chemicals may be naturally occurring, but the difference is that the nutrients in chemical fertilizers are refined to their pure state and stripped of substances that control their availability and breakdown, which rarely occurs in nature.
    DIY: The Debate over Organic vs. Chemical Fertilizers - Danny Lipford

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    Re: BP Makes ‘Giant’ Oil Discovery in Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Chemical Fertilizers are largely derived from petroleum products.



    DIY: The Debate over Organic vs. Chemical Fertilizers - Danny Lipford
    Wrong. Fertilizer has three main components, nitrogen, phosphate, and potash. Nitrogen is obtained from the atmosphere through a process called Haber-Bosch. Both phosphate and potash are minerals that are mined from the earth.

    Is some petroleum required to produce, deliver, and spread fertilizer? Of course, but fertilizer is not made from any petroleum product.

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    Re: BP Makes ‘Giant’ Oil Discovery in Gulf of Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I thought the treehuggers told us there was no more oil in the Gulf. Guess they were wrong, again.
    The United States has the largest reserves of oil in the world, given current extraction technologies. Google Green River Basin.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    It will take at least 10 years to get a single drop out ... at least.
    That's absurd. It simply does not take that long to establish pipelines and platforms to get the product out of the ground to a treatment facility.

    Regardless, even if it does, so what? Did I miss the memo about how we will all be on 100% pure alternative energy in 10 years? Did someone invent a way to produce plastic without petroleum? Are internal combustion engines going away in the next 10 years?

    This type of argument is the exact same one made by Clinton in the late '90s. Of course, 10 years after that, oil spiked up over $150 per barrel.

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